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From: "Ray Smith, MD" <>
Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] White -Southampton area
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 13:25:09 -0400
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Wethersfield and Hartford are two different entities about 10 miles apart.
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Roberts" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 11:23 AM
Subject: [NYSUFFOL] White -Southampton area


> Wilma:
> I know nothing about the people involved, but be careful of your places.
> This sounds a bit like some of the stuff from "Ancestral File."
> There was no Southampton in 1630. It & Southold, the two oldest English
> Towns in New York State, were founded 1640. The marriage of Rev. John
Cooper
> to Ann Cooper [is that her maiden name ??] might have taken place in
either
> England or New England. Ditto the 1638 birth of their daughter Sarah.
> Neither of these events could have taken place in a community yet to be
> established or settled by Europeans.
> Your people & dates might be OK; but you need to check the place for at
> least these two events.
> The LDS "Ancestral File" is notoriously awful when it comes to geography.
> Actually, Rev. Cooper couldn't have died in "Southampton, Suffolk, Long
> Island, New York" in 1662 either, since there was no Suffolk County until
> 1683 nor any New York until 1664. That might be "picky, picky" but it
shows
> the errors of reading today's geography back to the time of the event as
> done so frequently by "Ancestral File." Trying to find records in places
> that didn't exist at the time can often send the researcher on a
wild-goose
> chase.
> "Ancestral File" often calls Hempstead and Oyster Bay "Nassau, Long
Island,
> New York" for events in the 1600's, 1770's, and 1800's. Since there was no
> Nassau County until 1899, the researcher just using "Ancestral File" would
> have no idea that he/she needed to use Queens County wills & probates,
land
> records, etc. to find the people mentioned. Nassau County records would
not
> go back behind 1899.
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wilma Fleming Haynes" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 10:15 AM
> Subject: [NYSUFFOL] White, Southold-Southampton area
>
>
> > Good Morning -
> >
> > I have John 1) WHITE who md Ann COOPER
> > they are my 10th gr grandparents -
> >
> > This is what I have on them -
> >
> > John 1) COOPER [Reverend]
> > b 1 Jan 1608 Hareby, Lincolnshire, Eng
> > d 1662 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island
> > New York
> > md abt 1630 Southampton, Suffolk, Long
> > Island, New York
> > TO:
> > Ann 2) COOPER
> > bp 29 Aug 1619 Olney, Buckinghamshire,
> > England
> > d Jan 1687 Southampton, Suffolk, Long
> > Island, New York
> >
> > These are the children I have for them -
> > all born Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York
> >
> > 1. Sarah 2) WHITE
> > b 1638
> > d 1676 Southampton,
> > md 1660/61 Southampton,
> > TO: John 2) TOPPING s/o Thomas 1)
> > TOPPING & Emma 1)ALDRIDGE
> > b 1636 Wethersfield, Hartford, CT
> > d 1686 Southampton
> >
> >
>
>
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