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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 11:31:09 EST

On 1/31/03 (8:04:23 AM MST), Jan () asked,

"Would someone be able to provide me with information on how I can connet
with each burrough/county within New York City (like this one is for Suffolk
Co.)? I have/had relatives that have lived/died in all of the
burrough/counties and this informaion would sure help me."


NYC includes 5 boroughs (administrative districts of New York City) that are
coterminous with 5 counties (political sub-divisions of New York State); and,
simultaneously, NYC is also coterminous with 7+ postal cities.

Each of the 5 counties has its own Rootsweb mailing list; in addition, there
is a mailing list for NYC and also a mailing list for Brooklyn. For these
latter 2 mailing lists -- NYC and Brooklyn -- they are currently more popular
than either the New York County and the Kings County mailing lists,
respectively.

To subscribe, send an eMail, with the single word subscribe in the message
subject and body, to any or all of these 7 mailing lists:










For a full explanation of the idiosyncrasies of the geography and
governmental organization of New York City, read on:

Downstate New York State has its own special geography ... where things can
be a bit confusing to outsiders as well as to long time residents.

Beginning on November 1, 1683, the City and County of New York included only
the Island of Manhattan (and a few small islands in the East River). Then in
1873, the City and County of New York annexed the "western" Bronx (the area
west of the Bronx River and south of the City of Yonkers) from Westchester
County. This was followed in 1895, when the City and County of New York
annexed the "eastern" Bronx from Westchester County as well.

There is a small change on June 15, 1886 when the Lloyd's Neck peninsula is
transferred from the Town of Oyster Bay, then in Queens County to the Town of
Huntington, Suffolk County.

The big change comes in 1898, when the City and County of New York, the City
of Brooklyn/Kings County, Richmond County (Staten Island) and the
western-third of Queens County (the City of Long Island City, the Towns of
Newtown, Flushing and Jamaica and the Rockaway peninsula of the Town of
Hempstead) are consolidated into the new New York City. On January 1, 1899,
as the eastern two-thirds of Queens secede and form Nassau County, the
Rockaway peninsula of the Town of Hempstead remains behind as part of Queens.
Then in 1914, the Bronx County separates from New York County. (Thus, for
16 years, from 1898 to 1914, New York City was made up of 5 boroughs, but
only 4 counties.)

Simultaneous to these changes, in 1851, Kings County consists of 2 cities
(Brooklyn and Williamsburgh) and 6 towns (Bushwick, Flatbush, Flatlands,
Gravesend, New Lots and New Utrecht). In 1854, the City of Brooklyn annexes
the City of Williamsburgh and the Town of Bushwick; in 1886, the City of
Brooklyn annexes the Town of New Lots; in 1894, the City of Brooklyn annexes
the Towns of Flatbush, New Utrecht and Gravesend; and, in 1896, the City of
Brooklyn annexes the Town of Flatlands and becomes coterminous with King
County.

Now, to make this even more complicated, the U.S. Postal Service has divided
the City of New York into 7+ postal cities: New York (covers Manhattan and
the Bronx), Staten Island, Brooklyn (covers most of Brooklyn and parts of
northwest and southwest Queens), Long Island City (most of the original Town
of Newtown in Queens), Flushing (includes all of the original Town of
Flushing and parts of the Town of Newtown in Queens and also part of what was
Town of Bushwick in Brooklyn), Jamaica (most of the original Town of Jamaica
in Queens and a small area in what was the East New York section of the Town
of New Lots in Brooklyn) and Far Rockaway (in Queens). (Additionally, a few
small areas in the Bronx are serviced by post offices located in Westchester
County and hence have "Westchester" mailing addresses, such as "Yonkers, NY",
"Pelham Manor, NY", etc.)

Lastly, but not last by any means, New York City is divided into 5 boroughs
(city administrative districts) and 5 vestigial counties (sub-divisions of
New York State) as:

......Borough............County

......Manhattan.........New York
......Staten Island.....Richmond
......Brooklyn...........Kings
......the Bronx.........the Bronx
......Queens............Queens


A more detailed geography of NYC follows my name.

I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.

Walter Greenspan

The following detailed geography was derived from information in an eMail
sent by Nancy Coleman () to
"" on January 17, 2000.

The Bronx County/Borough
the only part of NYC that is on the mainland, is a peninsula, north of
Manhattan, separated from Manhattan Island by the Spuyten Duyvil Creek and
the Harlem River. Also includes North Brother Island, South Brother Island,
Riker's Island, City Island, Hart Island, and numerous other small islands in
the Long Island Sound. It is bordered to its north by Westchester County.

Kings County/Borough of Brooklyn
is the westernmost part of Long Island and it is bordered on the northeast by
Queens County/Borough and includes many sanctuary islands in Jamaica Bay, to
its southeast. It is bordered to its south by the Rockaway Inlet, the
Atlantic Ocean, Gravesend Bay, Lower NY Bay, and to its west, Upper New York
Bay and the East River.

New York County/Borough of Manhattan:
is an island, bordered on the West by the Hudson (aka North) River, the east
by the East River and the Harlem River, and on the north by the Spuyten
Duyvil Creek and the Harlem River. Also includes Roosevelt Island, Governors
Island, and Randalls/Wards Island, as well as Ellis and Liberty Islands.

Queens County/Borough
is on Long Island and includes the Rockaway Peninsula, and many islands
within Jamaica Bay. Most of its islands are a part of the Gateway National
Recreation Area (National Park Service) and are wildlife refuges and bird
sanctuaries. Broad Channel being the exception, which is residential.
Queens runs the entire width of Long Island with the East River and Long
Island Sound to the north, Kings County/Borough of Brooklyn to its southwest,
Nassau County to its east, and Jamaica Bay and the Atlantic Ocean to its
south.

Richmond County/Borough of Staten Island
is an island, lying south of Manhattan Island, bordered by New Jersey to its
west (separated by the Arthur Kill), NJ to its north (separated by the Kill
Van Kull), Upper NY Bay to its east, and Lower NY Bay and the Atlantic Ocean
to its south. Also includes Shooter's Island, Prall's Island, and Island of
Meadow - all of which are bird sanctuaries. Also, to its south, are Hoffman
Island and Swinburn Island which are part of the Gateway National Recreation
Area, administered by the US National Park Service.

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