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Subject: [NYSUF] Catholic BMD records
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 12:01:59 EST

On 2/12/04 (9:49:16 AM MST), in a posting to ,
Lilly Murphy () posted,

"Just wanted to let folks know that I contacted The Parish of St. Patrick in
Bayshore to inquire about birth, marriage and death records for several family
members in the 1880's and 1890's and received a reply about 2 weeks later
with marriage, birth and baptism dates as well as sponsors and witnesses names.
This was the ONLY Catholic church in the area at that time. The address to
write to is:

Mary Feeney
Parish Receptionist
The Parish of St. Patrick
9 North Clinton Avenue
Bay Shore, NY 11706"


Mazel tov* and thanks for sharing.

*Mazel Tov (MAH-zl TAWV)

Yiddish/Hebrew. Literally, good luck. This is the traditional way of
expressing congratulations. "Mazel tov!" is the correct and traditional response upon
hearing that a person has gotten engaged or married, has had a child, or has
become a bar mitzvah. It can be used to congratulate someone for getting a new
job, graduating from college, or any other happy event. Note that this term is
not used in the way that the expression "good luck" is used in English; that
is, it should not be used to wish someone luck in the future. Rather, it is an
expression of pleasure at the good luck someone has already had.


The pertinent geography:

Bay Shore is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the southwestern section of
the Town of Islip, Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (incorporated
municipalities) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities
and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk
County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS
definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.)

Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Bay
Shore in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by Hamlets of Baywood and
North Bay Shore; on the east by the Hamlet of Islip; on the south by the
Great South Bay; and, on the west by the Village of Brightwaters.

And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31
villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Bay Shore has a different border
than does the "Bay Shore, NY 11706" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Bay
Shore mailing address and not be in Bay Shore). Those places that have a "Bay
Shore, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Bay Shore are in the
Hamlet of North Bay Shore, the Hamlet of West Bay Shore, the Hamlet of Baywood,
the Hamlet of Islip, the Village of Saltaire and in the Hamlet of Fire Island.

For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI
Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power
Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access
and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Bay Shore in the Town of
Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate).

I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.

Regards,

Walter Greenspan

. Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State

New York State is divided into counties.

County
A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to
perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided
into cities, towns and Indian reservations.

City
A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities
are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic
areas.

Town
A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the
state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be
sub-divided into villages and hamlets.

Village
A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by
the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with
municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a
city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic
areas.

Hamlet
A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed
at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which
are informal geographic areas.

Postal Zone "City" and "Town"
A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by
the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town"
may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders.
Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet
location.


Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of
non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a
different community name in their mailing address than the community where that
place is actually located.

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