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Subject: Waddle Become of LI’s Iconic Duck?
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 10:38:22 EDT

According to today's (Monday, July 19) NEWSDAY, "Carl Iacone has a dream. A
very big dream: He wants to move the Big Duck -- perhaps Long Island's most
distinctive roadside landmark -- back to its previous home in Flanders, where
more people will see it and where he hopes it will become a symbol for the
community.
It won't be easy. It would be hard, even under the best of circumstances, to
move a 20-foot-tall concrete duck that's big enough to have a store in its
belly"

For the complete NEWSDAY article, please go to (copy and paste the complete
URL, beginning with "http" and ending with "-print"):

http://www.newsday.com/news/printedition/longisland/ny-liduck163898133jul19,0,
3428747.story?coll=ny-linews-print


Flanders is one of those many communities on Long Island where none of the
places in Flanders have a "Flanders, NY" mailing address.

The pertinent geography:

Flanders is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the
Town of Southampton (along the Southampton/Riverhead town line), in the
southeast part of Suffolk County. There are currently 6 villages (municipal
corporations) and 17 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Southampton. There are no
cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in
Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the
NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.)

Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of
Flanders in the Town of Southampton is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of
Riverhead in the Town of Riverhead (the Southampton/Riverhead town line) and by
the Great Peconic Bay; on the east by the Hamlet of Hampton Bays; on the south
by the Hamlet of East Quogue; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Northampton
and the Hamlet of Riverside.

And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31
villages and 126 hamlets), the hamlet and the postal zone that use the same
name, have much different borders: In this case there is no "Flanders, NY"
postal zone and places in the Hamlet of Flanders have other than a "Flanders, NY"
mailing address (these places have a "Riverhead, NY 11901" mailing address).

For those who have their copy of the 2003 or earlier edition of the LI
Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power
Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access
and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Flanders in the Town of
Southampton, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 28 (map) and 29 (population estimate).

I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting.

Walter Greenspan

. Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State

New York State is divided into counties.

County
A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to
perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided
into cities, towns and Indian reservations.

City
A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities
are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic
areas.

Town
A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the
state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be
sub-divided into villages and hamlets.

Village
A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by
the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with
municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a
city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic
areas.

Hamlet
A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed
at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which
are informal geographic areas.

Postal Zone "City" and "Town"
A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by
the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town"
may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders.
Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet
location.


Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of
non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a
different community name in their mailing address than the community where that
place is actually located.

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