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From: "Lilly" <>
Subject: Reply: Re: Brower families and Philipsburgh
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 07:13:37 -0700
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DEar Maureeen,
You wouldn't happen to know which were the FIRST Brouwer families to settle
in Sleepy Hollow-Philipsburgh area?

As I recall, your line of Pieter, s/o Adam went to Albany, then New Jersey.

My line was Abraham, s/o Adam, who remained at the Mill in Brooklyn.

Was it Matthys, s/o Adam who went to Westchester Co first? I believe that
Matthys was the FIRST and only son of Adam the immigrant to have gone to
Westchester Co at the earliest of time frames.

I was hoping someone would have the Mackenzie paper of the Brouwer-Brower
family who settled there early. I wanted to confirm that my own 'idea' was
the same as Mackenzie's work listed.

I am thinking it was ONE family only which was the first there, during the
Philipse Manor time period.

My own Brower line was Brooklyn, to NYC, to NJ and then to OHIO as of 1813
and further WEST from there. My own line does noy connect to the famous
lawsuit either, but because my line had a similar loss of estate in
Manhattan, my family mistakenly thought we were connected.
Best regards,
Lilly Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maureen S Cassidy" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [NYWestch] Address of William B. Bogardus


> Thanks, Lilly.
>
> I too have been corresponding with Bill and Raymona for many years. He
and
> I are cousins thru the BROUWER line back to the immigrant Adam . I have no
> (bloodline) connection to the Bogardus line because I descend thru
Pieter.
>
> I have heard about the famous (infamous??) lawsuit but have no personal
> interest in it.
>
> Maureen
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lilly" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [NYWestch] Address of William B. Bogardus
>
>
> Dear Maureen,
> You are correct. Mr. Bogardus does not use email as a medium of
> communication, he prefers regular mail, postal service.
>
> For those of you who want to write him, he does read his mail and he does
> answer letters, please be kind enough to send a self-addressed and stamped
> envelope for your reply.
>
> The website was not done by him, but was definately his work and name,
> address, etc. I have visited that website many times, because it has a
> great section written by him, called Frequent Errors, which goes through
all
> the Wrong genealogies that have been copied by so many over the years,
> especially in an effort to participate in the 200 yr lawsuit against
Trinity
> Church Corporation. I have read that section about 10 times, and learned
> alot about the WRONG/false genealogies. Sometimes learning about the
phoney
> genealogies is as good as learning about the true ones, because it can tip
> you off at the start that it is a phoney dead end alley, manufactured by
> some of the lawyers/genealogists in the past. In an effort to defraud.
>
> This was the url I used:
> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ghosthunter/Anneke/page0.htm
>
> That should be the MAIN page, and from there you can navigate to other
pages
> of his work.
>
> As you know, sometimes pages get updated or moved, and if by chance this
url
> has changed, please go to www.google.com and do a search on:
> Anneke Jans and Everardus Bogardus Descendants Association
> or:
> Dear Cousins by William Bogardus
>
> Either of those searches should take you to a current info of cost and
list
> of what can be order directly from Mr. Bogardus.
>
> My connection to his work is the BROUWER/Brower name in New York, because
> one of the sons of Adam Brouwer, the immigrant, was Jacobus Brouwer who
> married Anna Bogardus, the grandaughter of Anneke Jans. Thus making the
> descendants of Jacobus Brouwer entitled to participate in the law suit
> against Trinity Church Corp, NY, NY. Because of that fact it made many
> Brower families in USA determined to connect back to Jacobus Brouwer,
> whether it was a TRUE connection, of a phoney/manufactured descendancy
> chart.
>
> My own Brower family did produce one of those phoney charts, in 1868, and
it
> is archived at the Manuscripts division of NYPL. I like to think well of
my
> ancestors, and I like to say that they did not truely know they were
lying,
> out and out, but they did have a similar story which involved loosing a
huge
> valuable estate in Manhatttan, and they confused their own true story with
> the Anneke Jans story, which does not connect to my Brower family.
>
> Mr. Bogardus has been a huge supporter of my personal work for many years
> and he agrees with my research on my personal line.
>
> Best regards,
> Lilly Martin (Brower research)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Maureen S Cassidy" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [NYWestch] Address of William B. Bogardus
>
>
> > Lilly, is this something new?? Bill told me personally (s-mail) that he
> had
> > no computer. Or did someone else transcribe it to a website??
> >
> > Maureen
> >
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lilly" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:38 PM
> > Subject: [NYWestch] Address of William B. Bogardus
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> > The address I have for him is 1211, did I type it wrong? That would not
> be
> > surprising to me at all!!! If I did, please forgive me.
> >
> > To confirm if I am giving you the correct info, go to www.google.com and
> > search on :
> > The Anneke Jans and Everardus Bogardus Descendants Association
> >
> > That should take you to a website which his work appears on and his name
> and
> > address and the cost and ordering info of his genealogy materials.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Lilly Martin
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 6:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: [NYWestch] BROUWER/BROWER page of Mackenzie papers.
> >
> >
> > > Ok, now I have two different but very close addy's for Mr. Bogardus,
> which
> > > one is correct? Is it 1121 Linhof Rd. or 1211 Linhof Rd.? Please
> > advise
> > > before I try to mail something to wrong person. TIA, Vicki
> > >
> > > Researching names: Arwin(e), Baker, Barrett, Brokaw, Butler, Carnes,
> > Crowe,
> > > Dean, Ferris, Golden, Hendershott, Hoxter, Huber, Isaman, Jenks (all
> > > variations), Kelleher, Knapp, Koontz, Lundrigan, Makely, McDermott,
> > Merritt, Neu,
> > > Northrup, O'Connor, Osincup, Patterson, Powers, Quick, Rahmlow,
> Robertson,
> > > Robinson, Root, Ryan, Stocum, Wade, White, Wilcox, Wright, Van Oxx
> (Oxx),
> > Yeckley,
> > > Zimmerman
> > >
> > >
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