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From: Paet Burcham <>
Subject: Re: Personal messages
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 10:47:13 -0500


Jim,

Are you familiar with the term "Irish relative"????? Many a time I heard
it mentioned as a child. The Irish relatives were the people my great
grandparents took in that were not Dever's or O'Malleys. The Dever's
lived in the front house on Herman Avenue and the "Irish relatives" lived
in the back house along with other real blood relatives. They stayed
there until they had enough money and a paying job so that they could
move out and set up housekeeping on their own.

It is because of this type of "community" that it is essential for us to
continue sending, as you put it "personal messages"........ When dealing
with this group you are dealing with a group of people that originally
came over from Achill Island and a small area just facing the Sound.
Most likely, if we all dug deep enough we would find that in some way we
are all related. So, it is important for us to talk about who sat next
to who and etc. Also, though I do not consider myself as old, being 55,
the memories of what my grandfather told me of the area are slowly
blurring. If my memories can be saved and passed on to younger people on
this list my grandparents and great-grandparents memories and life will
not be lost. This is what genealogy is all about - not just a pedigree
list!

If we were discussing all of Ireland you would have a point - but we are
discussing, for the most part a hunk of land here in Cleveland that isn't
much more then a mile and a half square, if that. There are many
memories and much history to be considered about this place - and if we
are lucky we will also find out about that other hunk of land our
ancestors came from Achill Island, Co. Mayo.............. If you find
this boring you can always go to the nonspecific Irish genealogy pages.
Ohio-Cleveland-Irish-L at rootsweb is pretty darn specific. I do hope
that you will understand what I am saying. No disrespect intended......
we are just a unique group.

Paet......
On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:56:46 -0500 "James O'Donnell"
<> writes:
> Hey folks, lets cut down on sending personal messages to the whole
> group. Not everyone is interested in hearing about taking the
> streetcar
> to visit Granny, or who sat next to you at HNS. These kinds of
> trivia
> take lots of time for us to plow through.
>
> Jim
>
>
>

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