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From: HERMON B FAGLEY< >
Subject: [OHADAMS-L] Legal database;penal colonies;Va land suit records
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 13:59:38 EST


Guess I HAD BETTER IMPORT THE GREAT ANSWERES TO THE LEGAL DATABASE
QUESTIONS 1ST, THEN TALK VA LAND SUITS AND PENAL COLONIES. ;From: Keith
Gonzalez <>
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To: HERMON B FAGLEY <>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 07:16:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: TRIAL records of Criminal COURT CASES.
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Hermon,

I'm in the legal profession in Texas, but I would assume that Ohio
would handle things similarly. A transcript of the trial can only be
obtained from the Courthouse. Simply go the Court and request a copy.
If interested, you can also look through the file on the case (which
may provide some additional information that wasn't allowed to be
brought up at the trial).

LEXIS/NEXIS is indeed a legal database and you are charged by the
minute for its use. Westlaw is another legal database that also
charges by the minute. But, I would not suggest using either of these
on-line databases - because the same information is available free in
any law library and, likely, the information is not what you will want
anyway. The information available on-line only lists a brief factual
background of the case and then goes into the legal argument/analysis
and findings for the case. Useful for lawyers, but not many other
people. In short, the trial transcript is not available through
either of these on-line databases. Also, this identical information
is also available in book form in your local law library. (In case
you're not sure where your local law library is, most courthouses have
a law library and any university that has a law school has a law
library.)

Hope this helps and if you have any additional questions, please feel
free to ask. Good luck.

Janie

Researching Jeffers and Behymer in Clermont County

---HERMON B FAGLEY <> wrote:
>
> Mr Davis has been visiting about his g uncle ROB GREGOR,and his
dad,HENRY
> G GREGOR. They had a feud with the WOOD'S over a line fence on Poplar
> creek,Tate Twnsp,Clermont Co Oh early 1920's .The Woods had OLD HENRY
> GREGOR down hitting him with an ax when younger ROB GREGOR shot ED
WOOD.
> [1921?]. Anyway,MR Davis has found that someone aided his neice find a
> transcript of the trial., and she used the data for a college class,
and
> then thru it away. Mr DAVIS is wondering how to get another copy? I
know
> there are some fee-paid on-line services. My real estate agent wife
uses
> one called PACE for court house tax records. During the O.J.Simpson
> case,JUDGE ITO sometimes refered to another-"NEXUS-LEXUS" whixh I
assume
> is on-line legal data. Mr DAVIS mentioned a 3rd. DEWEY HARDEN has
> furnished a trial record of TIMOTHY CURLESS,1830'S but because DEWEY
is
> local,I assume he researched that in the courthouse. And Jeanne
Souther
> used to post BROWN CO OH Criminal Inditements from some book she had
> bought. Here in Clermont Co, we have microfilmed county
newspapers
> going way back. I suppose the CINCINNATI PUBLIC LIBRARY now has
it's
> data on the internet someplace, but I have long used it's computer
> bullettion board. 1-513-369-3200 9600 baud [likely faster now]

> 8,no,1 are the settings to use,and WINDOW'S "TERMINAL" or other
> communications programs like BITWARE,AND PRO-COMM.. 1ST,,you are
logging
> on to the main library's computer same as if you were in a branch
> library, to check on a book. "BUT" it also has databases of CINCINNATI
> NEWSPAPER article and obits back to abt 1900, and of n KY NEWSPAPERS
back
> to the [?] 1870's. I find it quick and easy to use,and you not
within the
> GREATER CINCINNATI MA BELL area , by calling off-hours,likely could
log
> on; check a name,and log off for less than a dollar in long distance
> fees. There is 1 trick to the disconnect. Before you log on,know where
> the 'HANG UP" CHOICE IS ON YOUR communications program 's menu, for
it
> must be used at final dis connect,to stop your phone line use. I
know of
> an old man who has been known to check for articles aboutr his
daughter's
> boy friends there. I,for one,would welcome unfromation on on-line
> data bases like NEXUS-LEXUS..
> Hermon Brown Fagley , 2679 St.Rt.125 ,Bethel,Oh 45106

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Hi Herman,

The Lexus Nexus you refer to is like the police officers way of
retrieving
information about you via your car tag etc, etc. It is not suppose to be
for
public use. Lawyers and judges use this system to refer to court cases
and
the law. However, you might try a law library for the information you
seek or
because you are family to this situation, you may approach the courts for
this
information.
Hope this helps
Dot

Chalkley's"Cronicles of the SCOTCH-IRISH OF AUGUSTA CO VA" is really the
court records of AUGUSTA cO Va,and hunks of what became,in 1863,WV. Big
as Augusta Co Va once was-pittsburg Pa was a part a few months.. HOWEVER,
the 3 vol set also includes the VA [and no WV] "DISTRICT" Land suit court
records abvstrats. A 1798 LAND SUIT in the VA district land suit court
about settlement at present WEIRTON,WV in 1773 [500 miles+]] included a
deposition taken from my REV GEORGE BROWN0-1798 BOONESBORO,KY.
New Sweden,on the DELAWARE RIVER south of PHILADELPHIA, 1638-56
WAS A "PENAL" Colony. And ENGLAND used us as a penal colony until the
REV WAR. Not just GA. 400 SHIPS SOLD 50,000 CONVICTS IN MD-VA.
ONLY AFTER THE REV WAR cut us off,did Australia become England'S PENAL
COLONY. . Many of our pre-1640 Puritans, and pre-1682 Quakers had been
in jail in ENGLAND. England sold her P.O.W'S here.
Hermon Brown Fagley , 2679 St.Rt.125 ,Bethel,Oh 45106

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