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From: Hermon B Fagley <>
Subject: Re: [OHCLER] Burial places
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:11:00 -0500


Richard,you name dropped Lawshe. "Back about 1953 ",Ron Lawshe"
lived with his mother,and 1\2 brother,Bob McFerrin,and step-father
Mr McFERRIN a mile east of me on Ohio Rt 125. Bob was born 1939-40.
Ron Lawshe was born 1936-37. When they moved,they stayed on Rt 125,but
west
12 miles,near Beechmont and 8 Mile Rd,or 2 miles west of the Motel
prefered by
John Charles Tippet,PhD.[and 2 mils west of the home of one of the Ralph
Behymer's.
And a couple miles n e of Bennett Behymer and brothers at State Rd.
Indeed,Bennett lasy lived north on 8 Mile.
I must be missing something on the importance of the names of these
family cemetaries. I disagree with a number of the names the DAR ladies
of 1948-59 used for church-yards. But I have my doubts that a family
cemetary
even had a formal name most of the time.

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 19:16:01 -0800 (PST) RICHARD RUSSELL
<> writes:
> Hello:
> Now that things have "slowed" a little, I will continue with my
> answer to where Joseph Betchelhimer (and wife Christina Lazena) are
> indicated buried. Since this "Bhymer" family was intermarried within
> itself, as well as with many other surnames also from the Clermont
> Co Ohio area, and into Indiana, as well as "backwards" into Va and
> Ky, I still though it might be of general interest to all. Plus John
> still had the "dogs" out on his listing. You have the Bhymers,
> Lawsche, Traut/Trout, Spence, Slinghuff, Waddle, Smith, Weddle,
> Lazena, Snidows, Waggoner, Archer, Webb, Custer, Short, Lower,
> Corbin, Boor, Stark, Haines, Stark, Starks, Hamilton, Burkett,
> Eppert, Landis, Beckett, Logan Manning, Kingery, Wheelers, Robbins,
> etc., etc., that, early, get caught up in this saga. But as of now,
> we are only trying to give ole' Joseph Betchelhimer, of our line, a
> resting place.
> Because I had almost secured all of the info/data/documents on
> said burial place several years ago, I figured I had arrived at the
> correct answer, - - - even if not to bet my life on. Then, a short
> time ago, I discovered my cousin, Mr John Tippet Esquire, listed a
> different finding in his terrific Behymer site. That made my blood
> boil, but I quickly calmed down; - - - plus he is not only smarter
> than me, but younger, and much tougher. Anyway, he wrote over to
> Henry Co Ind, and received the stock answer, but also that
> someway/somehow/someone was now listing the old Bundy Cemetery as
> the Betchelhimer-Bundy Cemetery, or as the Bundy-Betchelhimer
> Cemetery. The first part of the answer did not surprize me a bit,
> but the latter sure did. I thought, MAYBE?, after all of these
> years, maybe they had found something? But the rest of the answer
> seemed to be stock, and the latter just another guess? People are
> always coming up with new names for cemeterys (such as the Short
> Cemetery!
> in
> Clermont Co, being listed as the Wheeler-Short Cemetery by some DAR
> surveying gals in the 1950's, and 70's.
> Samuel Betchelhimer, son of Joseph, purchased land in Henry Co
> first, followed by his father, and then his brother John Abraham.
> Joseph died in 1833, but no reason for his death was ever
> documented, plus he was of a common age for most men to die of then
> "old age". He could have died od cholera, which had its on again off
> again run thru US. My research efforts found an old pamphlet,
> published by the County History Society, which said Joseph was
> buried in the Bundy Cemetery, and that he died in the Cholera
> epidemic.
> I searched all the records I could find, plus made several single
> and team trips to the cemetery, and came up blank on all counts; - -
> - - - plus discovered this was not only a "later" cemetery, but also
> a mostly black cemetery. Plus could not "see" Samuel, who stayed in
> the county "forever", became quite a "mover and shaker", not seeing
> that his parents had not only a well marked grave, but a WELL marked
> grave (a sign of the times for well off farmers and). They were
> indicated as buried on their own land, as was the ordinary
> procedure, and as the later church and church cemetery of the
> Betchelhimer choice (not the later Bundy)was not yet started.
> Then, Samuel ended up selling all of his own original lands, and
> moving onto, and staying on the old home place of his parents, - - -
> and, no doubt, the graveyard of his parents.
> This pamphlet, Cemetery records, Stoney Creek Township, By
> Thomas D. Hamm, published 1979, had me puzzled. It was a good job,
> but somethings did not add up. It turns out he was a high school
> student at the time of survey, and had did it as a project, plus was
> also checking on some of his own "family". He was a student at
> Indiana University when I caught up with him, and he had ran across
> some of the estate records on Joseph, and copied it thinking of
> annointing his cemetery records. I contacted him again, this time in
> West Virginia, where he stated "his own belief was that Joseph was
> buried in Bundy Cemetery", and that he thought he had read that, and
> the cholera bit, in an 1885 newspaper article (which newspaper
> article exists, but with no such info). It was all based on guess,
> or "could be".
> John wrote them and received the stock answer, which gave a
> possible clue, if the clue was available, and correct?. I knew I had
> not picked up a couple of document copies I had read, so decided to
> get them. Plus, I also contacted Henry County, and explored all of
> the happenings since I was last there. One result, Henry County
> still answers with the old stock answer. They explained why the
> cemetery was now tagged with two names, per the old 1979 pamphlet.
> The cemetery is exactly as is/was in 1970's, and long before. Oh
> yes, believe it or not, the County, and it Townships, are now trying
> to do something about all of these cemeteries, and their conditions.
> They have assigned boards of five person, with staggered terms, to
> serve and oversee, them and their upkeep and upgrades. And, oh my
> yes, I noticed, and not too surprized, one of those men, now, is a
> Mr T. D. Hamm.
> Anyway, per record, March 1840, Samuel Betchelhimer sold his
> Section 28 land ( where the Bundy Cemetery would later be) to George
> Gellespie and W V Davis. There are no mention of any cemetery, or
> any encumberance.
> Then in August 1846, per record, George Gellespie and Wm V Davis
> sold this same Section 28 land to Samuel Bundy. There is no mention
> of any cemetery, or any encumberances,
> Then in June 1866, all of the Joseph Bundy heirs sell/quit claim
> one half acre of this same Section 28 land, for the use of a Public
> Burying Ground, situated on the real estate of Samuel Bundy
> deceased. The half acre sold for twelve dollars, and was sold to
> Joseph Tibbets and Samuel Betchelhimer, Trustees, and to their
> successors in office.
> The first proved burial in the Bundy cemetery was in 1845, some
> five years after Samuel Betchelhimer sold same, and some 12 years
> after his father passed away. Of course, I should not forget the two
> guesses before the 1845 proved one, - - - Joseph in 1833, and a
> Philip Baltimore 9 years later in 1842, with no proof or such. He
> never did guess what might have happened to Christina (Lazena)
> Betchelhimer?
> So, John, and all of you Good Cousins, you will have to decide
> for yourselves where you want old Joseph Betchelhimer to lay. I must
> still stick with my first findings.
> Take care. Regards, Dick
>
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