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From: "Lilly" <>
Subject: Re: [OHCOLUMB] ID Theft article
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:25:28 +0900
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I just want to follow up with California information. I subscribe to
This deals with Los Angeles, CA.

We used to have a wonderful volunteer, who would go to the recorders office
there, and personally look up all the death certificates, and post the info
on the list so that you would have all the info about your ancestor, as well
as that would go into the archives at rootsweb, and future researchers would
have access to it also, and all of this FREE of CHARGE.

After Sept 11th, California legislators made a bill, which passed, which
prohibts anyone from walking in and looking at the death certificates, as
our wonderfil volunteer used to do.

Now, you must reguest the certificate from the state, and pay the full fee.
There is no more FREE look-ups. At first I was told you must describe your
relationship to the deceased, so no more looking for the ancestry of your
Grandmother's half brother, or cousin.

I do not know for sure if that stipulation has been relaxed in California.
All I can say, is it makes genealogy harder, more expensive, and probably
does not foil any terrorists from Identity theft, because if they want to
commit crimes, there is always a "way" to do that, which we honest citizens
would not know about.

The Legislation was referred to as "Anti-Terrorism Law", but I mistakenly
made a comment on it as being "Anti-Genealogist Law" and recieved a very big
backlash from those American citizens who thought I was a traitor for
questioning this law. I would caution anyone in complaining on the list,
because it will be percieved by many readers that you are "Un-Patriotic" to
object to laws which prevent the free access of Public Records from the
Public. Please re-read the last sentence to get my drift.

The citizens of the State of California did mount a very good, and well
organized protest to the law, but were unsucessfull.

This law went into effect Jan 2003, so we have had 1 year to see it's
effects in California.
Best regards,
Lillian Kathleen Martin
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Subject: Re: [OHCOLUMB] ID Theft article


> What is the easy access being referred to here? Thanks~~
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/19/2004 7:49:13 AM Central Standard Time,
> writes:
> Genealogists, historians and other researchers ..no longer have easy
access
> to Ohio's birth and death records that they'd enjoyed since 1867
>
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