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From: "M Archer" <>
Subject: Re: [OHCRAWFO] re GEORGE family
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 11:18:45 -0800


List,
Like I said before, I haven't seen ANY documentation to connect the
sheep stealers to our Phillip George. But, the will of Michael Meyer naming
his son-in-law Phillip George, and the dau. of Phillip George (Anna Maria
who later m. a Sprung), coupled with the rich family tradition in the Lake
Odessa area that even my grandmother recounted that Joseph George and John
Meyer were 1st cousins that married sisters, Cathreen Reimer and Sarah
(Sally) Reimer is more than sufficient.
My grandmother was b. in 1898 and was always aware of the Meyer-George
relationship in this small community, especially since there was a double
connection.
I suppose we are researching different Phillip Georges, but the one
I'm documenting is the one that buried his brother John George right next to
him, and they are sons of Phillip George and Margaretha Meyer. Margaretha
Meyer's brother Valentine Meyer was the father of John Meyer of Lake Odessa.
Valentine lived in Texas Twp. Crawford Co., OH, on the border of Seneca Co.,
OH, and is buried in the White Chapel Cem. in Melmore, Eden Twp., Seneca
Co., OH.
I'm familiar with your research Kathleen, too. And, I remember the
time you didn't have a clue to the origins of this George family. Your
family stories and traditions have grown over time. Sudden memory, maybe.

Marc
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Subject: Re: [OHCRAWFO] re GEORGE family


> Dear Marc:
>
> I have the book and the manuscript. I have nothing in anything I have
that
> lists the surname of Philip's wife, Margreth.
>
> You list the will of Michael/Michel Meyer. He lists a Philip George as
> married to his daughter Margareth. I see a similarity. I have nothing in
> any of my George data that lists a Margareth/Margaretha Meyer or a Maria.
I
> have a Margreth and a Marie Sprung. Similar but not the same.
>
> If you have a marriage document, a will by Philip George, any death record
of
> any child of his that lists the mother's maiden name, any birth or death
> certificate from any of his ten children that lists the mother's maiden
name,
> I'd be thrilled to see it. I am not disputing Margaretha "Meyer" as his
> wife. I have no clue if she is or not. I have seen nothing with her
> surname. I have no idea what his wife's surname is at this point because
of
> lack of documentation. But I cannot accept a Meyer link at this time from
> what George documentation I have found.
>
> I have John George's death record from Michigan. There is nothing listed
> under father's name or mother's name. All I have to go by is the Egypt
> Reformed Church records which lists his wife simply as "Margreth".
>
> I have found four Philip or Phillip George's or Georg's listed in this
area.
> They all have "similaries" but not one of them have a single document
listing
> "Meyer" as the name of his spouse.
>
> You choose to show me a "Meyer" will that lists a Philip George. I could
> take the time to show you about 50 documents that show the name of Philip
> George that are not my Philip George. They are someone's but not mine.
This
> is just one more to me. If he is your Philip George, that is wonderful.
>
> The sad part of this is Michigan records are very rich compared to what we
> have been able to find out about our family in Pennsylvania and Ohio
records.
>
> I am very familiar with your research, Marc. I know you have based some
of
> your information on Meyer documentation. I am not researching Meyer
family
> history because the name Meyer does not show in any George documentation I
> have. I would have to see the name Meyer on some George documentation
before
> I can truthfully acknowledge a Meyer link.
>
> Bretz documentation would be acceptable because the Bretz link is well
> documented with the marriage of Elizabeth George (b. 02 Feb 1833 near
> Wilkes-Barre, PA and died 25 Sept 1887) to Charles Ephraim Bretz on 19 Dec
> 1852 (b. in Seneca County, OH, 07 May 1828, son of Jacob Bretz and
> Philadephia Wolf, and died 26 July 1905.
>
> Again, those wonderful Michigan documents and records. If all of our
family
> had gone to Michigan, we'd be in record heaven right now. Alas, they did
> not. Philip's family "scattered" to Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan that
we
> KNOW of. Since we have only been able to well document two of his
children
> and partially document two of his children, we have six children of his
out
> there that we cannot document, as far as I know at least, at this time. I
> have a few leads on his son Michael George, but I am very hard lined about
> hard evidence before I acknowledge this as our Philip's son, Michael. And
if
> you are interested, it was the land record I found for him in Whetstone
> Township.
>
> Does anything in any George record you have document the Meyer surname?
Is
> there anything in any of Joseph's records or his family's records that
> document the Meyer name in a George record?
>
> The Philadelphia George's also have a lot of similaries like this Meyer
> document. Also, my Philip George had a daughter named Marie Sprung...not
> Maria. Again, close but not the same.
>
> Apparently, as I said before, we are not researching the same Philip
George.
> I do hope to find something concrete soon. I have some really great folks
at
> the LDS library here helping me research now as well as a wonderful
> genealogist documenting the journey of my Philip George's father, William
> George from Germany, through the Netherlands to England. He was a
Palitinate.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kathleen George Bryan

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