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From: "L.R." <>
Subject: [OHCUYAHO-L] where to find???
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT)


Hi Kathy,

Are you sure this man did not do his other crimes in Cuyahoga County?
I would check the conviction books at the archives for his name.
If you would like me to do this for you juet let me know, I will be down
there going through the conviction books for the 1920's and 1930' in a few
days.

Take care,
Lisa


> ATTACHMENT part 3 message/rfc822
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 23:53:13 -0500
> From: "Kathy Funk" <>
> To:
> Subject: [OHCUYAHO-L] Where to find criminal records?
>
> Dear listers,
>
> I need some good advice. This one is really stumping me.
>
> I have found out that the old family story is true. My grandfather's
> first wife really was murdered in Cleveland (in 1929). The rest of that
> family story is that it was a mob hit.
>
> Now-- how to prove that part?
>
> Harriet Steinbrenner (nee Chenoweth) had been a cashier at the Lake
> Shore Hotel. She and her husband had a boarder living with their
> family. This boarder had occasionally taken Harriet's car without her
> permission.
>
> One day, as Harriet was at a card party with eight other women, this
> roomer came to the front door and asked the hostess for Harriet. When
> she went to the door, Harriet was shot in the mouth and was instantly
> killed.
>
> The following day, the police cornered this murderer, and he shot and
> killed himself.
>
> No trial, of course, since he was dead already. The newspaper story
> says that he had been a bootlegger, that he had served three prison
> sentences, and that he had been sought for six holdups in Cleveland in
> the four weeks preceding Harriet's death. It says that Harriet had
> reported her car stolen when he failed to return it this last time, says
> the newspaper. It also says that the murderer had robbed the hotel at
> which Harriet worked.
>
> This all sounds mighty suspicious! I say that she was shot in the mouth
> because she "talked". I want to know what she talked about! I'll bet
> it wasn't just that stolen car or that fellow's petty theft. People
> don't usually get murdered for that, especially in front of eight
> witnesses. The news article says that this fellow had been in Cleveland
> for about 10 years, and that he had been "well known to the night life
> crowd" (in other words, the ones who like to drink bootleg whiskey!)
> The mob controlled most of the bootleg at that time.
>
> I really feel like that story about it being a mob hit is true, but I
> need to know how to find this man's prison records. He did not stand
> trial in Cleveland as far as I know. The robberies he was wanted for
> happened just before his suicide. But the Cleveland Police knew of his
> background (and his alias.)
>
> Where on earth would I look for this information? I would LOVE to know
> more about this man! Does anyone have any advice on where to search for
> this old criminal record?
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Kathy Funk
> Austin, Texas
>
> ______________________________


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