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From: "Brenda" <>
Subject: RE: [OHCUYAHO] Joseph Henry Griffiths, DOB: 30 Oct 1870
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 06:59:05 -0400
In-Reply-To: <001601c41baf$3e710ec0$6cd971d8@Hal>


Canadian Immigrant Records, Part One
Name: Julius GRIFFIN
Year of Record: 1901
Occupation: born outside of Canada
Source/Event: 1901 Census of Canada: Province of Quebec
Age: 68
Reference: National Archives of Canada, Ottawa: Reel No. T6549, District
200 - Wright County, Sub-District G00, page 06

-----Original Message-----
From: Val Brown [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 4:15 AM
To:
Subject: [OHCUYAHO] Joseph Henry Griffiths, DOB: 30 Oct 1870


Hi Sharon, and the rest of you great people for offering to help. Thanks
for the update Sharon, I hope I can find some of your magic touch and I
wouldn't mind a little luck thrown in with it. Great work. Actually you
could help me out if you wouldn't mind. You mentioned the necrology file,
would you happen to have the link to it for me. I did see it a couple of
days ago but now I can't find it in all these links I have surrounded myself
with. I wanted to try that extra trick of yours.

The reason I did not put a name down is that my information is so
conflicting as far as where he was born that I didn't want to bother anybody
with imperfect data. But as I am having such a difficult time with it I
wouldn't mind venting a bit. Here goes but I warn you that it is going to be
somewhat tortuous.

His name is Joseph Henry Griffiths, Born 30 Oct 1870, Sometimes the "s"
seems to get lost on various documents, making it Griffith.

- Attestation papers say born in Cleveland
- Canadian 1901 Census in Vancouver says Birthplace: United States and
immigrated in 1885
- Death certificate says Cleveland but done by one of his sons who makes
many mistakes on various signings of relatives so I can't count on that one.

- Marriage certificate: Vancouver 21 Jan 1892 says Born in Barrie, Ontario
(wife came from Orillia, close by, so is possible)
- Birth certificate of one of the sons filled out by Joseph Henry and on
this one it says Barrie. (only birth certificate I could come up with)

- 2 conflicting obituaries, one of them says 3 sons, 3 daughters and 5
sisters. Sons & daughters are correct but no one ever mentioned anything
about having sisters. I suppose they could have stayed in Cleveland or
Barrie. But there are so many mistakes that I don't know.

- Parents: Death certificate says father is Julius Henry Griffiths of Wales
and mother Mary Moors of Ireland. Lester again filling it in, so.....
Marriage certificate says father George H. (probably for Henry) and Rachel
Mary Griffiths, presumably Moors, but maybe not the right spelling. All
siblings are deceased now and the people who signed their death certificates
obviously didn't know much about Joseph. Seems to be about 50-50 as to
Ontario and Ohio.

What I really don't understand is that for the attestation papers, the
marriage certificate and the birth certificate of his son he would have had
to be there and still they are different. I guess the Census it wouldn't
have had to have been him that gave them the information. Oh man, I will
keep plugging away.

I now have even greyer hair and less of it from pulling my hair out.

----- Original Message -----
From:
To: ;
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Hiding in Plain Sight -- The Catalfo's


I am happy if I was able to encourage you. But, you never named the
grandfather you are searching for. I am willing to try looking at a couple
of my sources, but no name. (Not that I am an expert, as many on this list
are, but I like trying to pay back for all the help I have received.)

I didn't mention in my post that one reason I had trouble with Margherita
was that I was looking for a Sicilian family and there she was sailing from
France with a daughter born in Tunisia, Africa. I learned later that many
from Italy go to Tunisia to work...just a short ferry ride. And they
stopped in France to visit a close friend before sailing for the USA.

Sharon
in California


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