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Subject: Re: Wesleyan - Re: [OH-HAMILT] Re: Burial Place of Samuel Williams
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 20:16:20 -0400
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Thank you. I will see if I can find them. Pat Morano
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donna St. Felix" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:48 PM
Subject: Wesleyan - Re: [OH-HAMILT] Re: Burial Place of Samuel Williams
> We're still working on transcriptions and proofing of transcriptions
> for the Wesleyan Wesite (http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamcem/), a long
> and tedious undertaking with a LOT of almost unreadable (bad
> handwriting) thru the years. It'll take us a long time to complete
> things but we're plugging along. There are at 25 to 27 now approved
> rolls of film available (for the Wesleyan set) thru the Family History
> Centers worldwide. There's more yet to be approved if I understand
> things correctly.
>
> - Those names and info now on the site are at:
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~ohhamcem/cemlist.html Click on the name if
> you see a family member. More can still be added to each file also -
> and we're searching for photos of the deceased to add!
>
> - The published book: This was a first attempt by the Historical
> Society with publications like this (so I was told). It contains an
> estimated 5% + of errors and ommissions.
>
> - There is also the ftp site, a earlier work by others: We've found
> some problems here also.
> http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/oh/hamilton/cemeteries/wesleyan/
>
> Donna (Excuse any type-o's. I'm replying 'on-line' thru my server.)
>
>
>
>> Thank you so much for this information. It turns out that Samuel
> Williams
>> was one of the early persons who helped create Wesleyan Cemetery but
> since
>> the Charter does not have an address for the Charter, it is still up
> in the
>> air whether it was the M.E. Wesleyan or the Wesleyan. Samuel,
> according to
>> his will gave quite a few acres of land to his children in the Mt.
> Auburn
>> area on Auburn Avenue and some of it backing Vine. I wil check this
> link
>> and also check for the new Cemetery book as there were other members
> of the
>> family buried there too. Again, thank you. Pat Morano
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "J Hansen" <>
>> To: <>; <>
>> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:02 PM
>> Subject: RE: Burial Place of Samuel Williams
>>
>>
>> Hi Pat,
>> The old Methodist church which was displaced by P&G was in downtown
>> Cincinnati where the P&G world headquarters now stands. The burials
> were
>> removed to other cemeteries as Bob S told you.
>> Wesleyan Cemetery is on the western side of the city, away from
>> downtown. There used to be someone on the list who was active in
>> transcribing the Wesleyan Cemetery records and putting them on-line
> (maybe
>> the site you found?). I'm not sure what the status of that is.
> There has
>> been a book published on Wesleyan Cemetery records, but that was quite
>> awhile ago, and it is my understanding there were a lot of errors and
>> omissions, and that a new and improved version is in the works.
> Someone
>> else on the list may know more.
>> Mt. Auburn is now part of the city, but originally located on a hill
>> north of the downtown/basin area, east of Vine Street (I'm not sure
> Vine
>> Street actually goes through Mt. A., although it's close by if it
> doesn't).
>> Mt. Auburn pretty much merges into Walnut Hills. A big cemetery
> there is
>> Walnut Hills Cemetery (formerly the German Protestant Cemetery of
> Walnut
>> Hills), founded in the 1840s, I think. There was also a Jewish
> cemetery and
>> a Catholic (German?) cemetery fairly close by. There were probably
> others
>> as well.
>> The map on this page http://www.jasche.com/1899cincy.jpg shows a
>> M[ethodist] E[piscopal] cemetery in the general Mt. Auburn area. I
> have no
>> idea what became of this cemetery, or if it still exists. There are
> other
>> maps on this site (run by someone else who was/is on this list).
>> Vine Street runs north all the way from downtown near the Ohio River
>> until its name is changed to Springfield Pike in Wyoming, about 15
> miles
>> away. It divides the city (and county really) into east and west.
>> Vine Street Hill Cemetery is located on the west side of Vine Street
>> in Clifton (or just west of Clifton) near the zoo, about 5-6 miles
> from the
>> river, I would say. It's not in Mt. Auburn. Mt. Auburn is to the
> south and
>> east. I believe a Vine Street Hill cemetery book is also in the
> works (an
>> update of an earlier edition). Maybe someone with access to the
> local of
>> the library can check for you.
>> Just throwing out some thoughts. Hope this is of some help.
>> Juliann
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bob Scharf" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2005 12:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OH-HAMILT] Burial Place of Samuel Williams
>> > As far as that 'factory was built' statement is concerned, I
> believe that
>> > that may be a reference to an older cemetery that was in a area
> wanted for
>>
>> > a P & G structure. The remains were exhumed and moved to other
> burial
>> > spots, including Wesleyan. According to a P & G retiree, there were
> no
>> > gravesites visible when P & G acquired the land. However, when
> excavations
>>
>> > for construction were made, some gravestones were found under the
>> > Methodist fellowship hall. Following discussions with the church
> and the
>> > pastor, 8 feet of dirt was taken from that area and taken to
> Wesleyan. Any
>>
>> > gravestones found were placed on this site at Wesleyan 'along with
> a new
>> > marker commemorating the move'. It was surmised at the time that
> the
>> > fellowship hall had been built over the old graves as the church
> expanded
>> > and that is why the graves were found UNDER the building.
>> > Bob S
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
> [mailto:]
>> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:37 PM
>>
>> If someone can help me with this, it would be greatly appreciated.
> We are
>> having a difference of opinion as to the burial place of my three
> times
>> great grandfather, Samuel Williams who died-February 3, 1859 in
> Cincinnati,
>> OH. We have finally gotten to look at his will and in it he requests
> to be
>> buried in the Wesleyan Cemetery. I found what I think his a listing
> of him
>> but no dates with it on a website. The rest of the family thinks he
> was
>> buried at Mt. Auburn Cemetery which I can find no record of
> anywhere. One
>> person thought that a factory was built over the cemetery and the
> bodies
>> removed. I also found another cemtery in the area that Samuel owned
> a lot
>> of land-Vine Street Cemetery. Vine Street is a part of Mt. Auburn.
> Can
>> someone straighten me out on this? Thank you. Pat Morano
>>
>>
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