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From: "Alli" <>
Subject: Re: [OKGEN ] Welch in Indian Rolls
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 20:43:57 -0700
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Billie,
I'm not an expert on these rolls, but I've done some research with them to
help myself & other's find their Cherokee ancestor's.
Were you looking in the Cherokee rolls or another tribe (there are 5 total
that use these) The Miller roll was done between 1908-1910 & Dawes was in
1898-1914
If you find matching names on either of these rolls, I can (as soon as I can
locate my binder) give you a Microfilm # to order at your local LDS Family
History center where you can get a copy of the application to see if its
your family. If it turns out that it is, you can then get a copy of the
info. that shows up on the other rolls. If you find your ancestor's on the
Dawes roll (tracing back to & have all the documents to prove your
connection to that point) then you can register with the Cherokee Nation in
Okla. Also check the old Settler's rolls, the Baker Roll of 1924. If you
have ancestor's on the Baker Roll & prove your connection to them then you
can contact the Eastern Band of Cherokee in N.C. I believe their
registrations closed, but they may still offer something.

Alli :)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Billie Walsh" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 1:21 PM
Subject: [OKGEN ] Welch in Indian Rolls


>
> While trying to help someone else with a problem I, as often happens,
> stumbled across some very interesting information about my own possible
> family lines. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not particularly looking to
prove
> that there are those of Indian blood, but it could lead to some hints of
> places to look.
>
> What happened is that I stumbled across a listing for WELCH in something
> called the Chapman Roll, done in 1851. My own family seems to have changed
> the spelling, and pronunciation, of our name from WELCH to WALSH sometime
> just before the turn of the century. [ The only other explanation is that
my
> ancestor just spontaneously appeared one day. ] Anyway, the Chapman Roll
got
> me to thinking so I looked at the Dawes and G. Miller [ can't spell the
> first name so I won't even try ] Rolls. Just tons and tons of WELCH's
listed
> in both. So I come to my Okgen family because I know many of you have
> experience dealing with these rolls.
>
> Finally I get to the point of my post. In the Chapman Roll it gives the
> state of residence, and age, of the person listed, plus it seems to follow
> along family lines similar to the census rolls. Is there any way to
> determine the location and age of the applicant in the other two rolls?
Also
> I didn't find the dates of the other two rolls.
>
> Another thing is that in the Chapman Roll there was a column of numbers
> labeled "Miller Notes". There was almost always one number and quite a few
> had two. I suppose those numbers might have something to do with the
Miller
> Roll, but could the same person be listed under two numbers in the Miller
> Roll?
>
> (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o)
> Billie Walsh
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