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From: "Anne Burgess" <>
Subject: Re: [ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE] Re: Records prior to 1835 --- Mooney and Wallace
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:44:19 -0600
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Thanks very much, Lorna. I don't know if Margaret's husband was related to
my Murphys, but John Murphy m. Elizabeth Connors could certainly have been.
He was from Boley, Co. Wicklow (an area where many of the Kitley Balfes came
from, and only a few miles from my people in Parkmore).

The reason I'm so up-to-date on the background of the Murphy/Connors couple
is that I just had a search done on them by the Wicklow Heritage Centre.

Thanks again...Anne


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lorna Johnston" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE] Re: Records prior to 1835 --- Mooney and
Wallace


> Hi Anne;
> From the 1848 census of Kitley -
> Margaret Murphy, widow, owner of Lot 14 Con 1. There were 4 people living
> on
> this property
>
> John Murpy, farmer, on Lot 16 Con 5 with 5 people living there.
> John age 42 was in the 1851 census with his wife Elizabeth age 37, Bridget
> age 16, Mary age 9, James age 7 and Eliza age 4.
> From St Francis de Sales church in Smiths Falls- Elizabeth, John's wife,
> maiden name was Connors
> James 1846-1924 married Jane Burns 1847-1909
> Eliza was born June 12,1848
> Hope this helps,
> Lorna
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anne Burgess" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE] Re: Records prior to 1835 --- Mooney
> and
> Wallace
>
>
>> Thanks a million, Sandy. You're a peach! I expect that my Murphys
>> settled
>> among their in-laws the Balfes--so, Conc. 2 or 3.
>>
>> I thought I'd order the microfilm of the Kitley Township Papers as well,
>> through interlibrary loan.
>>
>> Anne
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sandy Wunder" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE] Re: Records prior to 1835 --- Mooney
> and
>> Wallace
>>
>>
>> > Hi Anne,
>> >
>> > The land abstract books are done by Concession and Lot, then all
> activity
>> > on the lot from the original patent until the 1950's or later,
>> > depending
>> > on when they were filmed by the LDS FHLibrary. Without knowing a land
>> > description they are tedious to search.
>> >
>> > The land record index films are alpha by surname, giving a land book
>> > no.
>> > and memorial, but they give no dates or other identifying info, so you
>> > have to look at the film of the actual land book to get the details on
> the
>> > land description. Once you have that, the abstract books are easy to
>> > search for subsequent activity. I have all of the Johnstown District
> land
>> > book films here on indef loan, and some of the land book films for
> Bastard
>> > and S. Crosby.
>> >
>> > But if Patrick Murphy's name appears in the index at a point, it least
> it
>> > will guide you to a land book and memorial for a purchase or sale.
>> > I'll
>> > be out and about this aftn. so will stop at the library to check it
>> > out.
>> > I have the S. Elmsley index film so will check it also.
>> >
>> > BTW, the abstract books are listed with the other land records in the
> LDS
>> > FHLibrary catalog. Do a place search for Leeds as part of Ontario,
>> > then
>> > choose Land and Property. The abstract index books come up as the
>> > first
>> > entry on the page.
>> >
>> > Sandy
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Anne Burgess" <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:45 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [ONT-LEEDS-GRENVILLE] Re: Records prior to 1835 --- Mooney
>> > and Wallace
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Sandy,
>> >>
>> >> Does the Kitley land abstract book cover the 1850s? I couldn't find
>> >> the
>> >> film listed on the LDS website, but I'd like to order it.
>> >>
>> >> Here's my brick wall. My gggfather, Patrick Murphy, came to
>> >> Kitley/Lombardy in 1852, too late for the 1851 census, and by 1858 his
>> >> son was married in Barrie, ON (north of Toronto) and his widow,
>> >> Julia,
>> >> was living in Barrie by the 1861 census.
>> >>
>> >> No death records at either end, so...did he die unrecorded in Kitley,
> or
>> >> enroute to Barrie, or unrecorded in Barrie. I thought if he'd had land
> in
>> >> Kitley, he might have sold it before leaving, or his widow might have
>> >> sold it, and we'd at least know something.
>> >>
>> >> I'd be grateful for any suggestions.
>> >>
>> >> Anne
>> >
>> >
>> >
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