OSTFRIESEN-L Archives

Archiver > OSTFRIESEN > 2005-03 > 1111027095


From: "Jill Morelli" <>
Subject: RE: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:38:15 -0500
In-Reply-To: <000d01c5295a$91753420$ec152acc@RuthJones>


Yes, they are listed:

Filsum
"Warffstette, so sie Eigenthumlich besitzen
Casper Jansen Warffstette, ein Schneider, Casper Jansen, Frau, ein Sohn und
Tochter"

"Arbeitsleute, so bey andere einwohnen
Hinrich Caspers wohnet in seines Vaters Kammer mit seiner Frauen, ein
Tagelöhner"
p. 393

No other "Caspers" in the group.

Jill

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Jones [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 7:29 AM
To: Jill Morelli
Subject: Re: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census

Good Morning Jill
Would you please check following for me:

Caspar Janssen, born 1660, Filsum, married Hille Hinrichs
son Hindrich Caspers born 1693, married Wobke Behrens.

Thank you in advance.
Ruth Janssen Jones
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Morelli" <>
To: "'Ruth Jones'" <>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 5:16 AM
Subject: RE: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census


You are welcome. Glad I could be of help. Jill

-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Jones [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 5:48 AM
To: Jill Morelli
Subject: Re: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census

Jill
The information I have on Niclas Walters (also shown as Berend Johanson) is
from entry 2158 Nortmoor OSB which indicates "Tagelohner auf dem
Vorwerkerland married Anke Harmens, von Holtland". They were married in
1713 at Nortmoor. Will do more research on villages you indicated.

This is wonderful information. Thank you for all your work. I especially
enjoyed the article "Citing Your Sources-A Guide" in the newsletter.

Ruth Janssen Jones

From: "Jill Morelli" <>
To: "'Ruth Jones'" <>
Cc: <>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census


Ruth,

You are in luck....

Under
"6) Noch etl. kleine Hauslien und die so sonst in Kammern wohnen
Niclaß Walters auf den Vorwerkerland ein geringer Taglöhner hat 1 Frau"


There are Harm Lukkens/Luckens in Horsten, and Bohlen. Are these villages
that might be correct for your ancestor?

Jill
-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Jones [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:05 AM
To: Jill Morelli
Subject: Re: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census

Jill
Could you please check Niclas Walters (also shown as Berend Johansen) from
Nortmoor. He married Anke Harmens, daughter of Harm Lucken in 1713 in
Nortmoor.
Thank you.
Ruth Janssen Jones
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jill Morelli" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census


> The latter. They wished to tax people to make the dikes stronger. So you
> see them arrange the population by social class because some would be
> assessed more than others. But, as you saw with the ones I sent you, from
> town to town they listed the information differently....some counted the
> animals, some just the amount of land, some gave the wife's name, most did
> not. Etc.
>
> Jill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Robert Appledorn [mailto:]
> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 2:15 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [OSTF] 1717 Flood-census
>
> Jill,
>
> Was that census taken for the purpose of determining who survived or
> was it for tax purposes where the tax was used to repair the dikes?
>
> robert
>
>
> "C.S.Robinson" <> wrote:
> Thank you for your generous offer. Could you please
> check for following families: (Aurich, Plaggenburg, Ostersander)
> CORELL
> WALTER
> RODEWALD
> RENCKEN
>
> - carol
> ...............
> On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 08:00:27 -0500, Jill Morelli wrote:
> > Moin! Moin!
> >
> > It has been a while since I have volunteered this so I thought I would
> nowb&.
> >
> > If any of you have names of individuals that might show up in the
> > Kopf-Schatzung 1719, a census of folks, older than 12, that survived the
> > 1717 flood, I am willing to look in my book to see if they are recorded.
I
> > am willing to look up all names but, for example if you are looking for
> Jan
> > Janssen and don't know the village name, it is impossible to discern
WHICH
> > Jan we are talking about. If the name is quite unusual, it is not
> necessary
> > to even have the village name, but it is helpful in narrowing the
choices.
> >
> > Happy to do this. Just let me know if you have anyone you would like me
to
> > look up. As always, the more info the better.
> >
> > Jill
>
>
> ==== OSTFRIESEN Mailing List ====
> Volunteers who will do lookups from 26 different OSBs are listed at
> http://www.summitsoftware.com/Ostfriesen/osbs.htm
>
>
>
> ==== OSTFRIESEN Mailing List ====
> Volunteers who will do lookups from 26 different OSBs are listed at
> http://www.summitsoftware.com/Ostfriesen/osbs.htm
>
> --
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005
>
>
> --
> No virus found in this outgoing message.
> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
> Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.2 - Release Date: 3/4/2005
>
>
>
> ==== OSTFRIESEN Mailing List ====
> For more information, check out the companion web pages at
> http://www.summitsoftware.com/Ostfriesen
> For questions about the list, contact
> Amy Robbins-Tjaden at
>
>

--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005


--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 3/7/2005




--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 3/8/2005


--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.0 - Release Date: 3/8/2005




--
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.2 - Release Date: 3/11/2005


--
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 3/15/2005



This thread: