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From: "Violet O. Guy" <>
Subject: Re: [PaOldC] southern migration of Friends
Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 22:19:43 -0400
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Sandra:

I shall add some URLs to the Migration Discussison.

Three URLs:
1) http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/monocacy.htm
The Quakers at "Monoquesey"

The German Brethern and Minninites also went through Monoquesey in Fredrick
County, MD. Some of the Catholics of the CALVERTs Fedual Colony, which was
established in 1634, "the Arc & the Dove", landed on St. Clements Island in
the bay of the Potomac River - under Lord Baltimore (title of the governing
CALVERT).
http://www.negenealogy.com/md/md_state/history.htm
State of Maryland History
(by Ancestry.com -- with U.S. Formation Maps, 1643 - present, posted below.)

2) http://www.rootsweb.com/~quakers/hopewell.htm
Hopewell MM

I descend from BEALS, John I, John, II, and John III, John III & Margaret
(HUNT) BEALS were married at Hopewell MM and later migrated to Guilford Co.,
NC with their granddaughter, Miriam Hoggatt md. James W. Mendenhall in NC.
James W. Mendenhall was s/o Elijah Mendenhall b. 1749 East Caln, Chester
Co., Pa, as son of James J. & 2nd wife, Hannah (Thomas) Mendenhall,
PA>NC>Wrightsborough, GA (Quaker Colony).

3) http://www.genealogyinc.com/maps/uscf.htm
U.S. County Formation Maps, 1643 - present
(by Ancestry.com)
Individual State Formation Maps are available from the above; but on some
like West Virginia, you may have click the WVA on the VA page.

is a mailing list for that part of
Virginia and into West Virginia, which were considered Shenandoah.in
Virginia.

http://speccol.mdarchives.state.md.us/msa/speccol/catalog/religion/cfm/dsp_denominresults.cfm?begin=D&end=H
Guide to Maryland Religious Institutions
Featuring the Collections of the Maryland State Archives
Draft edition, February 20
There is an entry for the Friends (Quakers).

Another source of Quaker Records are the following two books by Henry C.
Peden:
-- "Quaker Records of Northern Maryland", Births, Deaths, Marriages and
Abstracts from Minutes, 1716 - 1800, by Henry C. Peden, Jr., M.A., 353 pages
including index.
-- "Quaker Records of Southern Maryland", Births, Deaths, Marriages and
Abstracts from Minutes, 1758 - 1800, by Henry C. Peden, Jr., M.A., 116 pages
including index.
Both are available at WillowBendBooks.com or 1-800-876-6103

I hope that these URLs witll be helpful.


Violet Moore Guy
05/05/2005

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra Ferguson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: [PaOldC] southern migration of Friends


> The migratory patterns are always interesting 'food for thought', and sure
> give clues as to where to look, and for whom. The southern expansion by
> Friends began in the 1730s and 1740s, and carried Quakerism along with
> many familiar old Chester names, into the south. The movement reached
> the Monocacy area of MD in the 1720s...then crossed the Potomac River and
> 'stopped' to create the Hopewell meeting, north of Winchester, in
> Frederick Co, VA....in around 1730, if I remember right. Not long after
> this, a group of Friends from Pa settled in the Shenandoah Valley of Va,
> while a branch of the same migration moved from Md into Loudon and Fairfax
> Cos, and then to the more southern VA counties. By the 1740s they had
> reached as far south as Carver's Creek, in NC, and in the next 20 years
> the Friends founded the Cane Creek, New Garden and a number of other
> meetings. By 1760 the movement was again moving southward and by the time
> of the Am. Rev, had reached N C and Georgia.. By the end of the 1700s
> the southern Friends had taken a firm stand against slavery, and were no
> longer able to compete economically with their slave-owning
> neighbors....so, for both religious and economic reasons, they began a
> move that took them east, into Ohio, a free state, by the very early
> 1800s ...and, in 1802 they established the first meeting west of the
> Alleghenies, in Belmont Co, Ohio. My own family, who had started out in
> Chester and Philadelphia in the late 1600s, were part of this large group
> of folks....they moved from PA, to help establish the Hopewell meeting,
> in VA, then moved to Hampshire Co, VA (now WV) and finally into Ohio and
> the Concord meeting, in Colerain, Twp....this circuit was made by other
> countless Friends and the extant VA, Nc and Ohio meeting records are
> filled with familiar old Quaker names. So, if you 'loose' sight of
> someone, in this timeframe, try seeing if they might not appear in the
> southern meetings. I found my own family in VA by following these
> migratory patterns...they were in the Concord meeting, so I looked then
> for them in Hopewell meeting, in VA.....and there they were. From VA, it
> wasn't difficult to trace them back to Chester Co....
>
> Sandra
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 4:24 PM
> Subject: *** SPAM *** Re: [PaOldC] Mendenhall's killed by Indians on the
> Clinch
>
>
>>> Hi Marsha
>>
>> Thanks for sharing that.
>>
>> Many of the families that arrived in the time frame of 1710-1730,
>> settled first in the Old Chester area. Then moved westward with the
>> promise of land free for the taking (emphasis on taking, since the
>> Indians were living on it, but that seems to have been a trifling
>> consdieration). These old Chester settlers followed the Great
>> Philadelphia Wagon Road as it pushed west and south---the story being
>> that they would go as far as the end of the current road, and
>> settle---with later settlers going just a bit further on, gradually
>> pushing the road south---a regular conveyor belt so to speak. By 1739
>> the edge of settlement had reached the Rockbridge area in VA; You'll
>> find surnames of many Old Chester Countians among the original settlers
>> of Borden's Grant. Many of these seem to have affiliations with the
>> Nottingham lots, not necessarily Quaker, but settling in that area
>> initially (ca. 1710-1730), then moving west to the Grant about
>> 1738-1740. During the F&I War many of these settlers in the Valley of
>> Va pushed much further down the Valley, ending up in North Carolina
>> (Orange, Rowan Counties, etc)c. 1750-1760. SW Va opened up for
>> settlement in 1769, and you see these same Old Chester County surnames
>> appearing in these areas (including Castles Woods). After the Revolution
>> the process continued, with settlers streaming down the Indian Warpath
>> into NE Tennessee where again you see many of the Old Chester surnames.
>>
>> I found your story of Jacob Castle particularly interesting, as I'd not
>> seen that much of the family detail on his line. Something you may not
>> be aware of is the possibility that the Jacob Castle who settled on
>> Castles' Creek on the Clinch, may have been the son of Jacob Castle Sr.,
>> rather than the father you are speaking of. I don't know the truth of
>> that, but Jacob Castle Sr. initially settled at the Lead Mines SW of
>> what's now Fort Chiswell, and either he, or his son, relocated at an
>> early point to the Castles Woods area. The story is they were there
>> when the first of the settlers in '69 came in. I can probably find a
>> reference for that if you are interested.
>>
>> If you haven't seen Hagy's "Unsettled Settlements", you might want to
>> check it out. Its an excellent source of information on the early
>> history of the Castles' Woods area. Occurs in several flavors, starting
>> out as an MS these by Hagy, and then expanded on an improved with
>> different editions for publication over the years.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>> I am extremely interested in the below story....please keep anything
>>> that is said on the mail list. Thank you so much for sharing. Not
>>> only am I interested in the Mendenhall families because of my Quaker
>>> families in both Guilford and the area near Miami MM in Ohio....I
>>> descend from Jacob Castle of Castlewoods. I had not thought of the
>>> possibility that Jacob could have originally been from Old Chester PA.
>>> Here is the family folklore as it is written in my data base:
>>>
>>>> The original spelling was German, Kasel, then the American version was
>>>> Cassell.
>>>> The spelling of Castle came first in Jacob Castle Sr. Here is the
>>>> story that has
>>>> been passed down through the family. Jacob was supposedly an albino.
>>>> In his youth in Pennsylvania, he was not treated very well in the
>>>> community because of his
>>>> albino traits. He blamed his father Peter for not doing something
>>>> about this treatment. He left home at a young age, and ventured into
>>>> western Pennsylvania. The
>>>> Indians, thought that Jacob, the albino was God like, so they took him
>>>> into their homes. Jacob married a Shawnee Indian, Soweege, meaning
>>>> Gliding Swan. They
>>>> then left that area and moved down through the Shenandoah Valley
>>>> around the area of what is now Russell Co. VA. They settled in an
>>>> area now known as
>>>> Castlewoods. Jacob was supposed to have owned a 200 acre tract of
>>>> land, which was called Castlewoods. [In fact, somewhere on his
>>>> original property, he is
>>>> supposedly buried. I have read where a sandstone rock has been found,
>>>> with the inscription J. Castle and the year 1789, but I don't know if
>>>> this is true or not. You
>>>> may want to investigate this when you go down there.] The Indians in
>>>> that area, mainly the Cherokee treated him well also. Jacob was a
>>>> hunter and trapper, hence
>>>> the nickname, Jacob "The Hunter" Castle. He traded both with the
>>>> whites in the area and the Indians. I was going to tell you about the
>>>> name Cassell and Castle. It
>>>> has been said that Jacob forbid his name to spelled Cassell, and that
>>>> no one in his family would ever be named Peter, after his father.
>>>> Most of the descendants spell
>>>> the name Castle now, but back in the early 1800s to 1900 , some of the
>>>> census enumerators spelled it Cassel/Cassell. One part of the family,
>>>> namely the
>>>> descendants of Bazel, son of Jacob and one of his Cherokee wives used
>>>> the spelling Casteel. I have a few of them actually went by the name
>>>> of Steel, but I have
>>>> never seen that in any of the census reports that I have researched.
>>>> I was told that they used the spelling Casteel and Steel to hide
>>>> themselves from their Cherokee
>>>> heritage. Most of these Castles/Casteels were very dark complexioned,
>>>> whereas the descendant of Jacob through his Shawnee wife were of
>>>> normal skin complexion.
>>>> Note: All of Jacob's brothers descendants use the spelling of
>>>> Cassel/Cassell.
>>>
>>>
>>> marsha in WV
>>>
>>>
>>> Nadine Holder wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adding some more to the story - there is also a good story of the
>>>> massacre at http://www.rootsweb.com/~varussel/indian/2.html which is
>>>> the Russell County, Virginia Web Site. I had been researching the
>>>> Mendenhall family because a Richard Mendenhall was married to my
>>>> relative, Jane Thornbrough. The Quaker records in North Carolina
>>>> mention that Richard "disappeared in 1773" and I was never able to
>>>> find out more about him. A cousin of mine was doing a genealogy tour
>>>> around the country and sent me a photo of a pioneer grave marker in
>>>> Virginia that included "brothers Robert and Richard Mendenhall" who
>>>> died in an Indian massacre at daybreak October 10, 1773 so this had to
>>>> be the disappeared Richard Mendenhall! How Robert got on the marker
>>>> as brother of Richard is anybody's guess as the various stories refer
>>>> to the brothers as John and Richard Mendenhall, and indeed John was
>>>> the brother of Richard and no Robert in the family. They were sons of
>>>> Mordecai & Charity Beeson Mendenhall as I believe another post points
>>>> out. Mordecai was the son of John and Susannah Pearson Mendenhall and
>>>> grandson of John an Elizabeth Maris Mendenhall and of Thomas and Rose
>>>> Dixon Pearson. A photo of the Pioneer Grave marker is posted on our
>>>> Web Site http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/4038/RichardM.html
>>>> which tells of the family of Richard and Jane Thornbrough Mendenhall.
>>>> His youngest son Aaron Mendenhall was barely one year old at the time
>>>> of Richard's death and pretty obviously from the Quaker records Jane
>>>> probably never knew what happened to Richard. Jane transferred to
>>>> Miami Monthly Meeting in Ohio in 1804. Nadine Holder
>>>>
>>>>> .........
>>>>> On October 10, 1773 John and Richard Mendenhall, from Guilford
>>>>> County, North Carolina, were killed by Indians in South west
>>>>> Virginia. The Mendenhall brothers were part of a party led by
>>>>> Captain William Russell of Castles Woods Virginia, being led by
>>>>> Danuiel Boone. The Mendenhall's were with a part of the party that
>>>>> was bringing up the rear and had stopped for the night some distance
>>>>> from the main party.
>>>>> This is a well recorded event. A description can be found at
>>>>> http://www.tngenweb.org/campbell/hist-bogan/massacre.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Others who also settled in Castles Woods were in that area (notably
>>>>> John Walker II of the ~~~~~~ Walker line, who settled near what's now
>>>>> Rising Sun in Cecil County,MD on the Nottingham Lots c. 1726). John
>>>>> III (John II's son) and other members of his extended family also
>>>>> passed through NC not far from Guilford. (This area was a common
>>>>> destination for settlers coming originally our of Old >>> Chester.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone else on this list tell me if the two Mendenhall brothers
>>>>> were in a line that originally past through Old Chester Co?
>>>>> .........
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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