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From: Andrew Vida <>
Subject: Re: [PA-PHILA-MOUNT-MORIAH-CEMETERY]PA-PHILA-MOUNT-MORIAH-CEMETERYDigest, Vol 1, Issue 13
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 12:26:00 -0400
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I wonder if they would transfer ownership to a new trust if they were
threatened with a class-action suit? Establish a new trust and do a
fund raiser to reestablish the financial basis for the maintenance
annuities. If they are broke, they cannot afford a lawyer. I'd almost
bet that the cemetery could be taken from them. I know that sounds
mean, and I don't really intend it that way, but it is clear that the
present caretakers (if that term really even applies here) are either
incapable or unwilling to do the right things. Therefore, remove them
from the equation and take positive steps to restore the property.

Debbie Orner wrote:
> I called MM in 1991 and asked about my g-g & g-grandparents buried there,
> they tried to give me a run around about it. I said WRONG!!!!. We paid for
> their plots, and PC and I want the info. Within the week I had a copy of
> their original deed, and a hand written note with the burial plots info, who
> was where. It cost me NOTHING!!!!
> The following week I drove down from "up-state" PA, went to the office they
> gave me a cemetery map and told me to be careful in the cemetery. I also
> made comments about the condition of the cemetery, that it was a DISGRACE
> and a DISHONOR to everyone's loved ones who are buried there. Their comment
> back to me, was that if I was interested in paying (updating a "new" YEARLY
> fee for PC) @ $100.00 per person, per plot, since our last burial there
> 1979, my great grandmothers ashes, that they would be more then happy to
> send a caretaker over to our plots, two different sections of the cemetery
> to clean up and mow their area. I said what are you NUTS???? your deed that
> you sent me and the other info states " PC care for life" you aint getting a
> penny out of me, and my lawyer will be in contact with you. she changed her
> tone and said that the cemetery was broke, the money had been mishandle
> years ago, and unless a group or groups got together, or Boy Scouts doing
> their Eagle project, or criminals doing community service (which I think is
> a GREAT idea) the cememetery would get worse each year until nothing was
> left of it. I never did find the graves of my g-g- grandparents and three
> of their boys who died in the flue epidemic, nor their daughter who died
> young, married and left a son under the age of one.
> At present I only live about 15 miles if that, from MM, now that my hubby
> has a permit to carry and on one of his days off we will take a drive up
> and see if I can find them this time. He is a big man 6'6" and 320 lbs also
> a CO at the county prison, so I will real much safer up there, then when my
> mom and I went in 1990.
> Debbie (Dilks) Orner
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>>They have the info, its just in huge books, handwritten and an
>>chronological
>> order....So it takes alot of work on their part to look up the info...if
>>you
>> dont have a date its nearly impossible.....They do however do it, or they
>> used to, I got the info on my great grandfather about 9 or 10 years ago,
>>i
>> belive at the time i had to pay $30 or so for it, but I got his date of
>> death lot # age at death all that info that they have on file.....I'm not
>>in
>> anyway making excuses for them, just pointing out that they DO in fact
>>have
>> that info
>>
>> ~Dolly Beecher
>>
>>
>>
>>NOW it's up to $30.00????????? Oy!
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