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From: "Elizabeth Fischer" <>
Subject: RE: [ALL] Still Looking for Birth Certificate
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:59:13 -0500
In-Reply-To: <0bea01c6108d$69833f00$7073a8c0@DESK>
I find this all very interesting. I was born Elizabeth Doutt, but my
parents decided to chage my name at about age 10 to Beth Doutt. My birth
certificate is dated 1962 as Beth Doutt but I was born in 1952. This may
not have been a case of adoption, but a correction, or name change as
someone suggested.
Recently we discovered that my Father-in-law's BC was spelled wrong when I
tried to get a copy of his. I thought they mis-typed it so I called them.
They were not happy about the call and stated that is what it was they do
not make mistakes in typing. Good luck.
>From: "Gordon Small" <>
>Reply-To:
>To:
>Subject: [ALL] Still Looking for Birth Certificate
>Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:44:51 -0600
>
>I posted the message below and got a lot of useful suggestions from the
>responses that guided me to the process for requesting a birth certificate.
>Now, I have received the PA Department of Health "spin" on my sister Mary's
>birth,
>http://www.glsmall.com/genealogy/schmalz/pictures/other_documents/birth_mary_small.htm.
>The father's name on the birth certificate is simply bogus. Herman Small
>was
>my father and he indeed raised Mary as his own but I am certain that the
>name "Small" was not on Mary's original birth certificate since the family
>name didn't change until 1948. All other documents including my birth
>certificate, my brother's birth certificate, my parents marriage license
>and
>many other documents have the family's original surname which was not
>"Small". I suspect that the PA Department of Health simply used the info
>from the death certificate I sent to fill in blanks on the birth
>certificate. There must be some reason they have for falsifying the birth
>document. As far as I know there was never any adoption. My other sister
>has
>the family papers left by my parents when they died and there is nothing
>indicating any adoption ever took place.
>
>Any suggestion on how I can get a copy of the real document?
>
>Thanks,
>Gordon
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gordon Small" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 2:03 PM
>Subject: Looking for Birth Certificate
>
>
>I've been tracing my family roots for a couple years now and have put off
>one thing that has been on the agenda from almost the beginning of my
>quest.
>
>Since I started my research I have found out that my older sister Mary Jane
>was born 9 months before my parents were married. There are at least four
>versions of the circumstances involving her birth but I have not been able
>to nail anything down. Everyone who had first hand knowledge is deceased.
>
>The "facts" i.e. the things that I believe to be true are that my mother
>left Cleveland, OH and went to Pittsburgh, PA to have Mary. Mary was born
>on
>September 27,1933 somewhere in Allegheny County. I believe she was most
>likely born in a hospital there but have no idea which one. Mary's mother's
>maiden name is Marion Deex.
>
>I have no Idea what the father's name on the birth certificate would be and
>I don't know if Mary's last name on the birth certificate is Deex or
>something else.
>
>Since both my parents are deceased I'm sort of at a loss as to how to
>obtain
>Mary's birth certificate since the only information I have is the mother's
>name and of course Mary's name. One thing in my favor though is that Deex
>is
>a very rare name (Only about 45 in the United States since 1863) and none
>in
>Pennsylvania.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>Gordon Small
>
>
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