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From: "Lona Boudreaux" <>
Subject: Re: [ALL] Welsh naming patterns
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:28:31 -0600
I didn't realize there were Irish living in Wales. Of course, I've not done
a lot of research out of the US. Was your family coal miners? Thank you for
your offer but I wouldn't know where to start. I may be asking for the moon
trying to prove my 2nd great grandfather, Henry Charles Morgan b. Oct. 1,
1822 Breconshire, to his father, John. :)
I just tried the FreeBMD site and putting in the first name, last name and
years brought up nothing. I then used just the last name and was able to
find who I think is, Henry S. Morgan, the first child. Of course it is just
an index and I'm assuming more info could be found by sending for the
document. To check that out I decided to look for my ggrandmother. I
already have a copy of her birth certificate with parent's names etc. When I
tried for my ggrandmother, it said after a while searching that the site was
overloaded and try back later. I think the same thing happened to me a few
year back and I just gave up and decided to use the dates I found in
Altoona. Now that I want to put this in book form for family I'm wanting
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Steitz" <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ALL] Welsh naming patterns
> I would be glad to help you with a Wales lookup. I have access to Wales/
> Eng data. Your search area is the same as where all my Irish that lived in
> Wales had been. However most of the easy to locate info starts 1841, the
> first census. Your info is probably available if that is what you seek but
> you will need to work with more local sources which you can do from
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Lona Boudreaux
>> Hi Tomi,
>> I have used IGI and what they had was the same as I had. In fact I had
>> info than IGI. I did connect to the POWYS and BRE/MON Wales sites and
>> were the ones to provide me with copies of the 1851 & 1861 census pages
>> showing my family. They also provided me with copies of census pages from
>> 1841 but I can only guess if the names on those pages are my family.
>> is where I'm stuck. I think it was through the FreeBMD site that I found
>> the marriage date, Jan 30, 1843. of Henry and Ann. I sent for the
>> certificate and from that paper learned the names of their fathers. I
>> mothers were listed. I found all this info back 2006 so will do more
>> checking as more may have been made available. I'm working on putting the
>> Morgan's in book form for my family and would like to have some positive
>> info on John Morgan and Samuel Thomas, parents of the Henry Morgan and
>> Henry and Ann's first child was born May 1843 and he was named Henry S.
>> Morgan. I'm thinking the S. stands for Samuel. They had another son
>> George who only lived about 10 years.. The Henry Morgan in the 1841
>> has a farther named John and a younger brother named George. Father
>> is a glazier same as Henry will later list as his occupation.
>> Thank you.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tomi Larson" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ALL] Welsh naming patterns
>> > Hello Lona, I'm not sure what tools you are using to search for your
>> > ancestors. Have you used the IGI on the Family Search site? I have gone
>> > back to the 1700s using the IGI. Learning how to use the Batch numbers
>> > on
>> > the IGI is great for finding related people.
>> > You might also consider joining a Welsh Family History Society. The
>> > are very knowledgeable and helpful. Usually the cost is reasonable.
>> > The National Library of Wales also does research for a fee. They have
>> > found marriage records for me.
>> > Finally, a UK genealogy site, such as Find My Past, might be helpful.
>> > As another lister pointed out, the naming 'rules' were not always
>> > followed, so use that information with a grain of salt.
>> > Hope this helps, Tomi
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