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From: "Beverly Morris" <>
Subject: Re: [ALL] Welsh naming patterns
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:46:58 -0800
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William can also be German; for Wilhelm. Also, German, is George; for Georg,
pronounced Gay-org.
~Bev in Calif.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lona Boudreaux" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [ALL] Welsh naming patterns


> Hi Tomi,
>
> Interesting. I don't know. Something for me to keep in mind. What about
> the name William? Is it English or Welsh or could it be both. Guess I'm
> showing my ignorance. As far as where they lived, we were always told
> ggrandma, Mary Ann Morgan Laing, was from Abergavenny, Wales. Sure enough
> that's what is listed on her birth certificate. The 1851 Census gives
> birth
> locations of the family and they were either born in Abergavenny or
> Crickhowell. Except for George and he was born in Nantyglo.
>
> Lona
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tomi Larson" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [ALL] Welsh naming patterns
>
>
>>
>>
>> Hello Lona,
>> The names George and Samuel make me wonder if you ancestors also might
>> have lived in borders with Herefordshire? The names are more English than
>> Welsh. One other group is the Yahoo Monmouthshire group - the moderator,
>> Mike John, is an amazing researcher.
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/monfh/
>> Tomi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi Tomi,
>>>
>>> I have used IGI and what they had was the same as I had. In fact I had
>>> more
>>> info than IGI. I did connect to the POWYS and BRE/MON Wales sites and
>>> they
>>> were the ones to provide me with copies of the 1851 & 1861 census pages
>>> showing my family. They also provided me with copies of census pages
>>> from
>>> 1841 but I can only guess if the names on those pages are my family.
>>> That
>>> is where I'm stuck. I think it was through the FreeBMD site that I
>>> found
>>> the marriage date, Jan 30, 1843. of Henry and Ann. I sent for the
>>> certificate and from that paper learned the names of their fathers. I
>>> wish
>>> mothers were listed. I found all this info back 2006 so will do more
>>> checking as more may have been made available. I'm working on putting
>>> the
>>> Morgan's in book form for my family and would like to have some positive
>>> info on John Morgan and Samuel Thomas, parents of the Henry Morgan and
>>> Ann
>>> Thomas.
>>>
>>> Henry and Ann's first child was born May 1843 and he was named Henry S.
>>> Morgan. I'm thinking the S. stands for Samuel. They had another son
>>> named
>>> George who only lived about 10 years.. The Henry Morgan in the 1841
>>> census
>>> has a farther named John and a younger brother named George. Father
>>> John
>>> is a glazier same as Henry will later list as his occupation.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Lona
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tomi Larson" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ALL] Welsh naming patterns
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Hello Lona, I'm not sure what tools you are using to search for your
>>> > Welsh
>>> > ancestors. Have you used the IGI on the Family Search site? I have
>>> > gone
>>> > back to the 1700s using the IGI. Learning how to use the Batch numbers
>>> > on
>>> > the IGI is great for finding related people.
>>> > You might also consider joining a Welsh Family History Society. The
>>> > people
>>> > are very knowledgeable and helpful. Usually the cost is reasonable.
>>> > The National Library of Wales also does research for a fee. They have
>>> > found marriage records for me.
>>> > Finally, a UK genealogy site, such as Find My Past, might be helpful.
>>> > As another lister pointed out, the naming 'rules' were not always
>>> > followed, so use that information with a grain of salt.
>>> > Hope this helps, Tomi
>
>
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