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From: John Steitz <>
Subject: Re: [ALL] St Joseph's Orphanage
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 11:46:32 -0400
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I just heard from Heinz History Center to confirm that records of St
Joseph's Orphanage are all at Pitt. Catholic Diocese.
John

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:38 PM, John Steitz <> wrote:

> I think I can wrap up my conclusion for St Joseph's Orphaage. The inmate
> records are at Pitt RC Diocese.
>
> Combining what I had perviously learned. The children were admitted in my
> case by the father as there was no taking of children, social services or
> such thing. The mother had died and the 5 children , ages 3-11 were admitted
> at different times for a fee of $6 per month for their care. I could not
> tell you if that was per each or total. As I had assumed it was impossible
> to both work a fulltime laborer job and raise 5 kids at that time. Extended
> family could only endure so much. So the kids were admitted over a one year
> period based on age and support needed. All came out of the orphanage when
> they were old enough to work.
>
> On a side note the Buckley children were refused admittance to St Paul's
> (Irish) Orphanage because the mother was of German lineage and the kids
> baptized at St Augustine. So they went to St Joseph's (German) Orphanage.
> *Hard to imagine that was even in print in the records, phew. *
>
> I have been very fortunate to have been able to be in contact with
> descendents of 3 of these 5. The other 2 appear to have done fine also. My
> immediate family had no knowledge of this.
>
> John
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Norm <> wrote:
>
>> From another list, APRIL, 2001:
>>
>> /From:/ <mailto:>
>> /Subject:/ [PA-PITTSBURGH] St. Philomena Cemetery
>> /Date:/ Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:00:22 EDT
>> Good morning Listers,
>>
>> This is truly a splendid list, thanks Jeff for pointing it out to me. Good
>> luck to all.
>>
>> St. Philomena Cemetery was on the North Side section of Pittsburgh,
>> close to
>> Troy Hill. In 1888, the cemetery was closed and the bodies were removed to
>> the "NEW" St. Philomena Cemeteryin Ross Township.
>>
>> In 1910, this was incorporated into the North Side Catholic Cemetery &
>> Mausoleum. Recently, the name was changed to Christ the Redeemer Cemetery
>> &
>> Mausoleum.
>>
>> Their address is: 204 Cemetery Lane, Pittsburgh Pa 15237-2722, (412)
>> 931-2206.
>>
>> Bodies from the "old" St. Philomena Cemetery were discovered in the 1930's
>> when work was begun on the North Catholic High School. These were
>> reburied by
>> the Pepperidge Funeral Home on Troy Hill. Since headstones were missing,
>> there was no way of knowing who was being reburied.
>>
>> Full credit for this information is given to a poster of the Pa-Alleg
>> List,
>> unfortunately,
>> I don't remember the person's name. :)
>>
>> Searching yesterday for tomorrow
>> Smile, smile, smile
>> :) Nan :)
>> =================
>>
>> John Steitz wrote:
>> > Marilyn at Carnegie was very quick to respond:
>> >
>> > According to our information, whatever records exist are held by the
>> > Diocesan Archives.
>> > What information where you seeking on the orphans? Or are you interested
>> in
>> > the orphanage itself?
>> >
>> > Marilyn Holt
>> > Pennsylvania Department
>> > Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Virginia Patricelli
>> > <>wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Thank you.
>> >>
>> >> Virginia
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From:
>> >> [mailto:]On Behalf Of John Steitz
>> >> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:38 AM
>> >> To:
>> >> Subject: Re: [ALL] St Joseph's Orphanage
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have emailed both Carnegie and Heinz as a general inquiry on records.
>> I
>> >> will forward any answers for all.
>> >> John
>> >> Lake Placid, NY
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Virginia Patricelli
>> >> <>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I would be interested in anything to do with the orphanage and the
>> >>> cemetery.
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From:
>> >>> [mailto:]On Behalf Of JR Jamieson
>> >>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:03 AM
>> >>> To:
>> >>> Subject: Re: [ALL] St Joseph's Orphanage
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I agree and would like to know also. I have my great unclue who was
>> >>> buried
>> >>> at Troy Hill Cemetery and no one seems to know where they went.
>> >>>
>> >>> I do have a map of the time if anyone is interested that I can share.
>> >>>
>> >>> JR Jamieson
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 412 343 9264
>> >>>
>> >>> Home of the Steeler Nation
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Virginia Patricelli" <>
>> >>> To: <>
>> >>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 11:53 AM
>> >>> Subject: [ALL] St Joseph's Orphanage
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> I would be interested in this also. Especially in knowing which
>> >>>>
>> >> cemetery
>> >>
>> >>>> they used. My husband's grandfather had four siblings that died
>> while
>> >>>> they
>> >>>> were in the orphanage and also their mother died at that time. They
>> >>>> didn't
>> >>>> have any money so have no idea where to look for burials.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Virginia
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From:
>> >>>> [mailto:]On Behalf Of John Steitz
>> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:50 AM
>> >>>> To: ALLEGHENY
>> >>>> Subject: [ALL] St Joseph's Orphanage
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Can anyone tell me a source of records for St Joseph's Orphanage on
>> >>>>
>> >> Troy
>> >>
>> >>>> Hill Rd. circa 1905-1920? Pitt RC Diocese has been able to provide
>> >>>> entrance dates and will be able to help with exit dates if I can
>> >>>>
>> >> provide
>> >>
>> >>>> proof of death. Is there a civil source or another. The case was that
>> >>>>
>> >> the
>> >>
>> >>>> mother died 1905, shortly after birth of youngest and obviously the
>> >>>>
>> >>> father
>> >>>
>> >>>> could not raise 5 kids and work a labor job.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any ideas that I can share with some cousins who want to know more
>> >>>>
>> >> about
>> >>
>> >>>> their grandmother's situation? Thank you.
>> >>>> John Steitz
>> >>>>
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