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Subject: Re: [ALL] Finding Death Notices and Obituaries in theseold newspapers....ie, SF "Fannie" BURROWS A tutorial?
Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2012 17:07:33 -0600 (CST)


Glad it helped. I nearly went blind reading all the microfilm but it got
easier when I realized I had to start with the classified sections and got
an idea of where in the classified they were located.

Glad you found some information that will help.

Donna


On 03/03/12, Dan Sample<> wrote:

Donna,

Thanks for the tips. I followed your advice and was able to find my great
grandfathers (Dennis Mcfadden) obituary in the February 11, 1924 edition. I
was surprised because he died on the 10th and I figured it wouldn't have
been placed so soon after. It is hard to read but I was able to make out
his widows name (Elizabeth McFadden nee Newland). I was surprised her
maiden name was included.

Daniel
Only the infinity of the depths of a man's mind can really tell the story.
--- On Sat, 3/3/12, [1] <[2]> wrote:
From: [3] <[4]>
Subject: Re: [ALL] Finding Death Notices and Obituaries in these old
newspapers....ie, SF "Fannie" BURROWS A tutorial?
To: [5]
Date: Saturday, March 3, 2012, 2:28 PM
When I was looking for obits in the older papers I usually found them
listed
with the various headings Carrie noted and they were quite often (most of
the time) in the classified section of the paper. Don't know if this
means
they were paid obits because for some of the ones I found I really don't
think they would have spent the money for an obit. I always went to the
classified sections first and usually found them near the bottom of the
page
of one of the classified pages. Was a real pain but frequently paid off.
I did this by looking at microfilm at the library so no search function
just
winding and winding the reel of film until I found the death listing. Of
course if they were important or wealthy people they usually had a bigger
obit and I found them in various sections of the paper. So, most small
obits fell into the same category as rentals, jobs, etc. Strange thought.
Donna
On 03/03/12, Carolyn J Thomas<[6]> wrote:
>RE: Sarah Frances "Fannie" BURROWS obit
> * The Gazette Times (Pittsburgh) has digitized issues on Google for
that
timeperiod, but the images are so poor I cannot tell if she is listed or
not.*
Hi Listers,
Thereùre some tricks which may help you in locating death info in the
old
newspapers.
1. Keep in mind the column format of death notices:
JONES John xxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
2. Think of the heading/headline which might signal the listing, such as:
DEATHS
DEATH NOTICES
And in the case of The Gazette Times for 2-8 April 1923, both:
DIED
DEATH ROLL
Hopefully those will be more visible and much easier to see.
3. NOW, on Googleùs Archives, scan the small complete pages of your
issue
until you find such headings, OR columns with that death notice format.
In the case of the search for Fannie BURROWS, I scanned through the
full-size pages w/o needing to enlarge the page for reading purposes. I
spotted - on the 3 April 1923 issue - the heading DIED in the right
bottom
of page 18 [of 24 pages] .....without having to go column by column, one
page at a time. This link will take you to a headline to the left of the
DIED listings for that day:
<[1][7]http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=-EhAAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OGgDAAAAIBA
J&pg=4
584
%2C6283136>
<[2][8]http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=-EhAAAAAIBAJ&sjid=OGgDAAAAIBA
J&
amp
;pg=4584%2C6283136>
While Lisa was correct that these images are terrible, it is still
possible
to see that Fannie is NOT in the death notices on the 3rd. The all-caps
family names are more likely to be visible and show no BURROWS between
the
A-s and the C-s, on 3 Apr 1923:
ALLWES
BARR
BECK
BELLES
BREIDA?
BUMILLER
CALLOMON
4. NOW, take note of WHERE you found the death notices. In this case they
were found on the 3rd page of the classifieds, before the Comics (Mutt
and
Jeff <G>: remember?) I also found the deaths in the classifieds in the 4,
5,
6, and 8 April issues. I looked at the # of pages, and guessed where the
classifieds would be found (usually within 5 of the last page for issue.)
Putting that number in the ____ of (# of pages) box at top and clicking
the
enter key took me to that page.
Once there, it was easy and quick to scan the classifieds until I found
the
format or the heading. I also noted in SOME of the issues: actual
obituaries
with the headline DEATH ROLL. I did not find any death listings, per se,
in
7 Aprilùs issue. That doesnùt mean they were not there; I just did
not
spot
them. It may be that the paper did not include deaths on Saturday, saving
the notices for the big Sunday paper. I also checked 2 April, just in
case
there was an error in the reporting to the state OR a typo on the part of
the index typist.
This usual location possibility is NOT a guaranteed find. Sometimes the
papers will have their death notices and/or obituaries on whatever page
has
a bit of unused space. BUT it is worth the time to check. The time you
save
by being able to narrow your search to just 3-4 pages out of 25 or 77
(Sunday 8 Apr 1923) can be significant.
The earlier the time-frame (particularly the mid-1800s and before), the
less
chance you will find multiple listings of deaths or the format above.
Itùs
still worth the time to scan the pages for headings, before going page by
page.
5. One more thought: IF you do not find your death notice in the week
surrounding a known death date, consider the possibility that your person
may have had a newsworthy death. You may wish to read through the entire
paper of the expected day of death and at least one page following, to
see
if an accident, crime, or simply an odd or unusual death has been noted
as
newsworthy. Itùs also possible that such an event might delay a death
notice
until later, since the news article already spread the word.
My 3rd-great-grandfatherùs death notice made the front page of óThe
Venango
Spectatorò: Franklin, Venango County, PA., Thursday, June 20, 1850:
Column
#1: óDIED. On Monday last, at his residence in Sugarcreek township, Mr.
John McQuaid, in the 89th year of his age. Mr McQuaid was one of the
eldest
settlers of Venango county.ò
Good luck!
Cari Thomas
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584
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