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From: "james miller" <>
Subject: [PaCambri] Troubles in Camelot/ addenda
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 21:50:33


Some material came today [May 29, 2001] from the Archdiocese of Baltimore
which might be a few more pieces for the puzzle.......


ARCHDIOCESE OF BALTIMORE

ARCHIVES

May 24, 2001

Mr. Jim Miller
621 Grove Street
Greensburg, PA 15601

Dear Mr. Miller:

Enclosed please find a photocopy of the only letter (coded as 4-H-6) in the
archives from Edward V. James to Bishop [later Archbishop] John Carroll.
Since this letter seemingly has nothing to do with your area of research, I
checked the man's name not only in the current card catalog but also in our
oldest archival inventories. These indeed indicate that there was another
letter (coded as 4-H-7), two pages in length, from James to Carroll, dated
May 23 1807 (no other details given), but this letter is marked as long
missing in inventory. In fact, I checked for the letter on the oldest
microfilms, made from our collections I think in the 1940s, and the letter
had aleady disappeared by then. If Carroll made a response to James, it does
not appear in Thomas Hanley's three-volume outgoing correspondence titled
John Carroll Papers or in Thomas Spalding's recent John Carroll Recovered.

You also ask for a letter from a lady named White to Carroll. Once again, I
checked both card catalogue and old inventories without any success. Her
name is likewise not indexed in the above-named books by Hanley and
Spalding.

Since you said the desired "James letter contained a list of names" and
since you know that "White is writing about her daughter," you found much
more than I have. It might possibly be helpful to me to know the sources of
your information.

As far as "any material available" concerning early Cambria and Gallitzin
disputes, let me point out that our collections for each archbishop are
primarily arranged by name of correspondent rather than by topic. Indeed
there are no letters indexed under the name of Cambria. There are 26
letters, totaling 77 pages, from Gallitzin to Carroll, but archivists would
never submit such a large amount of old correspondence to the light and heat
of photocopiers.

You are welcome to make an appointment to visit the archives. The hours are
generally 10:00 to 6:00, usually Monday through Friday. Your visit must be
preconfirmed with me as the only staff member.




320 Cathedral Street, Baltimore, Maryland 21201-4419 I (410)547-5443 I Fax:
(410) 727-5432 I

Incidentally, Gallitzin wrote the following to Carroll from Loretto on July
27 1807 (coded as 8A-P-2): "It is with the greatest pleasure I comply with
Mr. James's request of sending Y[ou]r Lordship the enclosed act of
retraction... I need not add that I have not required of Mr. James any
further satisfaction. Please to take care of the enclosed [retraction] &
send it back by the first safe opportunity." Carroll wrote on the reverse
side of the letter: "James's retraction.. inclosed [sic]. This paper is to
be returned to Mr. Gallitzin."

There are about nine biographies of Gallitzin at the Library of Congress.
Some of them may be helpful in your research.

With every best wish, I am

Sincerely,



Rev. Paul K. Thomas
Archivist
Enclosure

P.S. My e-mail address is or .

There is then the text of the letter from E.V. James to Bishop Carroll.
This was written from Lancaster, before he came to Cambria Co. It is dated
18 July 1804. It gives some insight into James character. He is
intervening with the Bishop on behalf of a maligned, immigrant clergyman,
who he is hoping the Bishop will consider in a more favorable light.

Right Rev. Sir {John Carroll}

Being informed that you have received letters injurious to the reputation of
the Rev. Mr. Fitzsimmons, it seems incumbant on me to represent him also,
tho in terms not so much to his discredit, & from motives of charity as an
indigent clergyman and as a stranger in America.

I do not think that hospitality was extended to him which was due to him, &
which perhaps he claimed from the straightness of his circumstances, and in
my opinion, had he been received in the spirit of forbearance, instead of
premeditated insult, it would have reflected much more honor to some
individuals of the Congregation- I wish Sir, that this matter was more
fully investigated, and that the Rev. Mr. Fitzsimmons had an opportunity of
speaking and writing for himself before he should experience the
disapprobation of his superiors, and that equal justice should be rendered
to him,
And am Reverend Sir, with the greatest respect,
Your Obedient Humble Servant

Edw.. V. James


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