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Subject: [PACAMBRI] Meaning of "ceremonies of Baptism" in Adams familybaptisms.
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 20:56:29 -0400
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The answer is the phrase "ceremonies of baptism".
If a midwife or doctor thought a child was going to die at
birth or shortly after, they [or the family] would baptize the child.
It is a Catholic law that anyone can baptize [even a woman] in the case
of an emergency.
An unbaptized baby was not eligible to be buried in consecrated
ground. Some cemeteries [like St. Bernard's, Hastings] had a formally
named Potters' Field for unbaptized babies, unbaptized spouses, public
sinners [usually meant divorced and remarried] and anyone the priest
was fighting with about their practice of religion.
Therefore, if the baby was baptized at home by the midwife,
etc., they would later be taken to the church and the "ceremonies of
baptisms supplied." Often the midwife was listed as the godparent. My
g-g-grandmother, Barbara Schwab Long and her husband, Joseph Long, are
often listed as godparents for that reason.
This "ceremonies of baptism" was a 'conditional baptism" as a
persson could not be validly baptized more than once.
In the case of some Protestants being baptized by Fr.
Gallitzin [especially Lutherans] it is a 'conditional baptism'" because
some Protestant denominations still have valid orders--means that the
religion has kept ordaining their priest in a line from a bishop in
the Catholic Church.
Therefore, I think it possible that the SAME CHILD was
recorded as baptized TWICE, one when reported by the midwife, and one
when the "ceremonies of baptism" were supplied in the church by the
priest.
Marilyn Kline Washington
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From: Donna Noel Julian <>
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Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 2:18 pm
Subject: [PACAMBRI] Fwd: Re: Fw: Cemetery - Thomas Adams - St Michael,
Loretto - St Augustine
Hi Jim,
Renaming of the next in line was not the case
here. He was alive and well in 1850 and on the
census with his parents. The update in Ledoux is
accurate and spent a few hours going back and
forth yesterday with the same argument, and the
fact that "ceremonies of baptism" was in the
baptismal entry. However, if you carefully look
at the death entry in Vol. I, it was a supplement
by Fr. Kittell and a compilation of deaths made
in 1899 for the Loretto Centenary, not including
children under six years of age. The correction in Vol. II is valid.
From Gary Kriss:
I wonder if you might want to add the real Thomas
Adams Jr to this list. He is implied but would the specifics be helpful?
5. Thomas Adams Jr b. 14 Jan 1823, ceremonies of
baptism supplied 26 Feb 1823 (Fr Gallitzin), s/o
Thomas Adams and Rachel McGuire
d. 6 Nov
1873, buried in St Augustine Cemetery (note:
headstone gives date of birth as 13 Jan 1822 but
CVR has to be followed on this, particularly on the year)
h/o Ann
[Catherine] Smith, b. 28 Jan 1833, d. 16 Mar
1916, buried in St Augustine Cemetery (next to Thomas)
m.
1) Thomas Adams Jr 2 Oct 1853; 2) Henry Scanlan aft 1873
Now who are the parents of the Tom in this article:
Cambria Freeman, Ebensburg, PA, 14 NOV 1873
St. Augustine, Nov. 10, 1873
Dear Freeman—
On Thursday morning last, 6th instant, Mr. Thomas Adams, a highly
esteemed
citizen of this vicinity, was fatally injured by
an accident, the circumstances of which were as
follows: Mr. Adams and others in his employ were
engaged in taking down an old log house near his
residence, three men having entered the old house
to throw off the logs. Mr. Adams was at the time
near his new home, but had, unnoticed by the men,
approached the house that was being demolished,
when they rolled off one log and two others
followed in quick succession. Just then one of
the men, hearing a strange noise, looked down and
saw Mr. Adams lying under the first log that had
been thrown down. They all went immediately to
his assistance, and carried him into his house,
where he received the rites of the Catholic
Church, and died within two hours from the time
he received the injury. He was 51 years of age,
and leaves a wife and eight children to mourn his
untimely end. Thus in the midst of life we are in death.
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