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Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Dempsey Pace Bible Record
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 18:15:33 +0000


Mabel:
In Pace Society Bulletins, Volume I, pg 187 it states: "According to the book "Pace - Your Family and Mine" by Joseph Vernon Pace, a Dempsey and a John Pace came to Alabama, which was still then Mississippi Territory in 1809.
Some researchers believe they were the sons of a Frederick Pace who came from Wales in 1768 and settled in Chesterfield County, SC. There is some support for this theory. The census taken in Clarke Co, AL in 1850 gives Dempsey's age as 74, i. e. born in 1776, and South Carolina as the state where he was born. However, there are several discrepancies which cast doubt on this interpretation. The census of 1800, for instance, does not support the claim that Frederick was the father. His age group would rather indicate that he was an older brother or a cousin."
In Bruce Howard's book Bruce states emphatically that Dempsey was the first son of William Pace and Drucilla Grissom. On page 227 Bruce says: "By the year 1807, William carried his family down to Georgia [from Chesterfield District, SC] and settled in Wilkinson County where he farmed for a number of years... Dempsey and his family accompanied them to Wilkinson at the time of their move, where he remained for only a short time before carrying his family, in the latter part of the year 1810, further west into Mississippi Territory and settling in old Washington County on the east side of the Tombigbee River."
"The above are known and proven facts. The romantic story published in the history of Clarke County, Alabama, stating that John and Dempsey Pace were brothers and came to Alabama in 1809, is not true. The facts concerning those events will be explained in great detail when we deal with John Pace and his family in just a moment."
"In about the year 1822, William and Drucilla, with all of their boys and one of their daughters and a son-in-law left Georgia and came to Clarke County, Alabama to live. They settled in the same area where their son, Dempsey, resided, in that area later identified as West Bend...."
On page 229 Bruce says: "I believe he [John Pace] is the member of the family who, in condederation with his brothers, William and Frederick, started the fable of Frederick Pace of Wales, a story he told to his children, no doubt, to conceal the real identity of his father and the fact that he was a Tory and was killed in the act of rebelling against the American cause for freedom. I have no doubt that the division between these boys and their father ran very deep..."
Gordon W. Pace

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> Edison Jeffus, a former president
> of the Pace Society, is a descendant of Frederick Pace. He lives in Tulsa,
> Ok.
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> Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Dempsey Pace Bible Record
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> > I believe that the earliest entry in the Dempsey Pace Bible record is
> incorrect. My record is that Dempsey was a son of William Pace b. abt.
> 1759, d. 9/20/1826 and Drucilla Grissom. William had a younger brother
> Frederick b. abt. 1768 m. Jenny M. 1783 in NC. I have not found any record
> of a Frederick Pace in America born before this one - and this Frederick
> could not be Dempsey's father.
> > Perhaps someone knows of a Frederick Pace in the 1800 to 1820 census
> records in AL or the Mississippi Territory, but I really think William was
> Dempsey's father.
> > Gordon W. Pace
> >
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> >
> > > Can anyone tell me who this Dempsey and Frederick belong to? Julie
> > >
> > > The Dempsey Pace family Bible Originally printed in "Mississippi
> > > Cemetery and Bible Records, Vol. 10, Sept. 1963" by the Mississippi
> > > Genealogical
> > > Society. I have excerpted only the portions that bear directly on
> Rainwater
> > > descendants.
> > > BIRTHS
> > > Dempsey Pace was borned February 26th A.D. 1775, son of Frederick and
> > > Elizabeth Pace
> > > Elizabeth Rainwaters, daughter of William and Elizabeth Rainwaters, was
> > > borned A.D. 1783
> > > Thomas Pace, son of Dempsey and his wife Elizabeth Pace, was borned
> December
> > > 14th A.D. 1802
> > > William Pace, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, was borned
> August
> > > 15th, 1804
> > > John Pace, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, was borned March
> 1st,
> > > 1806
> > > Alfred Pace, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, was borned
> October
> > > 11th, 1807
> > > George Pace, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, was borned
> March
> > > 10th 1811
> > > Gillim Pace, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, was borned
> January
> > > 15th 1812
> > > Sarah Pace, daughter of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, was borned
> > > December 3rd 1813
> > > DEATHS
> > > Elizabeth Pace, wife of Dempsey Pace, departed this life A.D. 1813
> > > Sarah, daughter of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, departed this
> life
> > > in December A.D. 1813
> > > George, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, departed this life
> > > December 15th A.D. 1813
> > > Gillim, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, departed this life
> 1841
> > > Alfred, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, departed this life
> June
> > > 26th 1846
> > > Thomas B. Pace, son of Dempsey Pace and his wife Elizabeth, departed
> this
> > > life Oct 27th 1860
> > > Dempsey Pace departed this life Jan 29th 1864
> > > MARRIAGES
> > > Dempsey Pace and Elizabeth Rainwaters was married on the 25th of Febuary
> > > A.D. 1812*
> > > *Either this couple was married after most of their children were born,
> or
> > > the transcription is wrong and this date should be 1802.
> > >
> > >
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