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Subject: Re: [PACE] Fascinating letter from Ireland
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 16:46:24 -0500
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Roy Johnson wrote:
> I had to disappoint this lady on the DNA test but she is trying to trace a
> female. But what a fascinating letter! And of course the locale is in John
> of Middlesex territory.
>
> Gordon (of Canada), are you there? Maybe you have something on this Sarah
> Pace.
>
> Roy Johnson
This is wonderful, Yes, I have a lot of info for her concerning this,
going back to Prees, Shropshire. Can't do it all in one email.
I've had a web page for Paces of Stockton for several years and just
checked the FamilySearch.org site. They have added many more PACE entrys
since I last looked, collected PACE entrys and made the original page.
Stockton,Shropshire in Google search brings up:
Hodnet Parish Shropshire
ALBRIGHTON SHIFNAL STOCKTON WORFIELD PATTINGHAM in Shropshire ...
Dwelling: Cheswardine Lane, Census Place: Stockton, Shropshire.
www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/hodnet.htm
I don't think she needs to be disappointed, The PACE ancestry clearly
goes back to HODNET, then to PREES.
Also, one of my great grandmothers was an EVANS and that name is very
popular in a place called Brewood, Staffordshire. (pron. brew' od)
http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/main.htm#aa for a map of it
click on http://www.achurchnearyou.com/activemap.php?V=4180
Shareshill will be neaby, at the junction of M54 & M6
M54 takes you to Shifnal and into Wales, only about 30 miles.
The ancestry of two SARAH PACE entrys goes back to HODNET, Shropshire,
then to Prees, where my 6X grt.g/f GEORGE PACE was Christened in 1670.
This Sarah Pace looks to be the grandmother of
Ellen Evans who was 14 in the 1881 census, born abt 1866:
SARAH PACE
Birth: 30 OCT 1786
Christening: 03 DEC 1786
Stockton By Bridgnorth, Shropshire
Father: WILLIAM PACE
Mother: CATHARINE
LDS Batch Number: C037493
SARAH PACE
Christening: 02 FEB 1762
Stockton By Bridgnorth, Shropshire
Father: THOMAS PACE
Mother: JANE
Batch Number: C037492
More to come as I gather up the new postings on the LDS site.
This Sarah Pace Christening: 02 FEB 1762 ancestry on a web page at:
http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/stockton.htm
When I made this up from PACE entrys there were only 10 PACE entrys, now
there are 53 PACE entrys. The LDS is working all the time with their
volunteers. I do that now and then.
Stockton
Batch Number: C037491 now has 32 PACE Christenings
Batch Number: C037492 has 10 (my original 10)
Batch Number: C037493 has 21
So there are 53 new PACE Christenings for Stockton, wonderful.
I'll be busy for a couple hours or more, collecting them and adding to
what I've already posted.
What's also interesting is that Liz Forrest O'Driscoll says
> my grandfather, who died in his 70s in the early 1950s
> in Smethwick, Birmingham.
About that time,
My aunt OLIVE PACE (nee Maund) was mayoress and magistrate of Smethwick
where Liz Forrest O'Driscoll says her grandfather died in the early
1950's. Olive was married to my father's brother Edward Arthur Pace. She
was always in touch with me because the hospital was bobed the night I
was born. A nurse GORDON (Scottish surname) looked after my mother and
me so I was named GORDON. My dad worked for Vickers & A.V.Roe aircraft
Co. who made Lancaster bombers, Spitfires, Hurricanes. Lots of bombing
on his way to work at Castle Bromwich, Birmingham. I was sent to Canada
in late 1940. where my father's people were since 1926. Enough blather.
Maybe Liz would like to hear some of it. She must have missed the war
years but since her grandfather was also in Smethwick, and industrial
town, I'm sure she'd like to know something about the Pace folks there.
I'll extract the new Stockton PACE entrys.
Several people from this lineage have already been in touch with me.
A cousin in Arkansas wrote this morning.
Last month a Les Pace in Finland sent an email. He descends from the
THOMAS PACE Chr 1805,
http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/1000.htm#thos1805
brother to JOSHUA PACE Chr 1808 Laney Green of Shareshill parish,
Staffordshire. Last April/May, my 2nd cousin, Ann Murphy & husband, who
still live on the farm where GEORGE PACE settled in the 1720's took me
to one of the local public houses for dinner. That was a real treat.
Sorry for running on, It's always great to hear from a cousin, no matter
where they are. The PACE name seems to have gone far and wide.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liz Forrest [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:47 PM
> To:
> Subject: possible Pace descendant query re test
>
> Hello, I am a 60 year old widow living in Ireland and just found your
> webpage when trying to trace the roots of Sarah Pace, of Cheswardine Lane,
> Stockton, Shropshire (1881 UK Census?) who is listed as having a
> granddaughter named Ellen Evans, aged 14, who may have been my
> great-grandmother. I only know her name and that she was a barmaid at the
> Talbot Arms Inn in Shifnal aged 15, when she became pregnant with my
> grandfather, who died in his 70s in the early 1950s in Smethwick,
> Birmingham.
>
> My own ancestry is worldwide (my Dad was born in India of mixed ancestry,
> including Portuguese, British and Indian), but I've discovered that Shifnal
> or Idsal was noted up until the 1870s for a population whose average age at
> death could be up to 140 (Post Office records). As two of my
> great-grandparents are from there and one possibly links to Sarah Pace
> (Ellen apparently tried to commit suicide aged c. 90 -- one could understand
> why if all her loved ones were gone and no end in sight), would you be
> interested in a DNA sample?
> Unfortunately I cannot afford to pay for it at present -- I've been living
> in a stone building without electricity for nearly the past two years as it
> became much too expensive (450 euros each bill and climbing!), but I'm
> working on a solution. I haven't had the time and money to search and pay
> for corroborative records, so my apologies if I'm in error. Liz Forrest O
> Driscoll
>
> PS: Does blood type prevalence have any link to this as well? I'm A+ but
> my sister is AB- as my father was AB, mother 0.
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