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From: "Roy Johnson" <>
Subject: Re: [PACE] FTDNA Special extended
Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:39:31 -0500
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The Indian ancestry legend is common in a lot of families, including mine. I
don't recall the exact details, but there was some kind of distribution or
something to Cherokees, and a lot of people tried to prove Cherokee
ancestry. Again I am fuzzy on the details but I was able to find the
application by a Pace ancestor to claim Cherokee ancestry, and it was based
only on personal remembrance and an affidavit from a family friend. It was
turned down. I'm sure that info is somewhere on my system, but many Indian
ancestry claims have been proven false.

Roy Johnson

-----Original Message-----
From: [mailto:] On Behalf
Of Jackie Pace
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 2:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [PACE] FTDNA Special extended

Thank you Joe. I've found 3 female lines making that claim, but J*, H, & T2

says these females were not Indian on their maternal lines - and is very
unlikely they all had a unknown male Indian ancestor. Could these stories
be a cover-up for illegitimacy?

Jackie Ashley PACE
The Woodlands, TX
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=ashley42

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janders 45" <>
To: <>; <>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [PACE] FTDNA Special extended


> Though mtDNA is not of use in surname studies, there are some interesting
> applications of mtDNA analysis. In my case, my ggg-grandmother in the
> direct maternal line is believed by some to be half-Indian. I am always
> skeptical of such claims as I believe that European-Indian marriage or
> cohabitation was extremely rare in Colonial times, other than the cases of

> traders who lived amongst the Indians and took Indian wives. I had sent a

> DNA sample to SMGF (Sorensen Molecular Genealogical Foundation) some time
> ago, and I was able to find my line in their mtDNA database a few months
> ago. After having deduced my mtDNA genotype from the SMGF information, I
> concluded that my mtDNA haplotype was largely Mediteranean and had little
> in common with known American Indian haplotypes. Hence, I believe that
> the mtDNA results have disproved the theory that my ggg-gandmother was
> half Indian.
>
> This conclusion is dependent upon my assumption that my ggg-grandmother's
> Indian parent was her mother, which would mean that I would be carrying
> Indian mtDNA, if the half-Indian theory were true. If she had been the
> product of a mating between an Indian male and a European female, then she

> could be carrying European mtDNA and still be half-Indian. But I think
> that my assumption is valid since I believe that European male/Indian
> woman matings were rare in those times, and Indian male/European female
> matings were much rarer still.
>
> Joe Anderson
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