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From: "DianeLRice" <>
Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Scot- Irish Traditions
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 14:03:09 -0400
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Some of the pronouncations of words and expressions has been most
entertaining. Although, I am not terribly sure they are Scot-Irish in
nature. My father's side of the family were English, they came to the U.S.
shortly after the Mayflower and during the Revolutionary War and after went
to New York and some to Canada. They then came to Michigan in the 1870s for
the lumbering business. My father's name was Versal Washburn, and his
nickname was "Warshy." He always said "warsh" instead of "wash" and so did
other members of his family. They also said "Punner" instead of "pretty
near" and a few other terms that have been sent to the list. When my sister
went to California and used the term, her husband thought he was going to
have "Pudding" for dessert that night.

What I remember from my mother's side of the family that came from Central
Pennsylvania was a dish she called PawnHoss that Justin mentioned in one of
his other emails. My great grandmother, Almeda (Kline) Wion brought the
recipe with her to Michigan in the 1920s. Not sure she had any Scot-Irish
in her background, but I was told they ate a lot of PawnHoss during the
"Great Depression." I think it was eggs and some kind of wheat cereal made
into a loaf that was then baked. It could also be served as left-overs by
slicing it up and frying it. I was NOT fond of it and dropped that
tradition quickly when I married in the 1960s. Had not thought about it in
many years. Thanks, Diane in Michigan

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gloria Harbach" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Scot- Irish Traditions

> Thanks so much, Justin, for the list you provided re Scotch-Irish words.
> You brought back memories that have been long buried! I'm saving that
> email for my children and grandchildren. One word did puzzle me, though -
> "Punner". My Scotch-Irish grandmother would say "he ran putnear the whole
> way to the store" or he putnear broke his arm." I still say we are going
> "up to State College" which my husband spent years trying to correct.
> Gloria Harbach
> Some are:
> "Redd up" - I'm going to redd up the house. (To clean up, make ready,
> organize - from an old Scottish word.)
> "Punner" - Contraction of "pretty near;" almost. That store's punner the
> whole way to Johnstown!
> "Fetched" - not strictly regional, but used among the old folks, this one
> is dying out. He fetched me the newspaper.
> "Mind" - to remember; also fading from usage. I mind aunt Pearl but I
> don't mind uncle Fred; he died before I was born.
> "All" - gone; empty. Tell him he can't have more pie, because it's all.
> "wretched" for "reached" is used in the Bald Eagle Valley and some parts
> north.
> "Poke" has also been used for paper bag, but it is not as common, at
> least
> in my experience.
> "Dippy" eggs, i.e., fried eggs over easy. This is a Pennsylvania German
> term.
> "Pawn hoss" is the general term for what is often called scrapple
> elsewhere.
> There are others as well which others may contribute.
> Then there are grammatical constructions such as, "I'm going to shoot
> your
> grandfather a deer." "Throw your father down the stairs his hat,"
> etc. These are all still in common usage and readily understood.
> It is also true that you go "up" to State College, although it is South;
> going from Milesburg to Port Matilda (southwest) is "up the valley" and
> the
> opposite direction is "down the valley." In fact, they are called the
> Upper and Lower Bald Eagle Valley for this reason.
> The southern part of the county, containing what were called the "German
> townships," has its own accent, particularly as you go out around
> Rebersburg and also Eastern Penn's Valley. Native speakers in that
> region
> have a distinctive Germanic accent.
> It is only by interacting with others outside the area and going to parts
> elsewhere that we gain a true appreciation of our own regionalisms and
> distinctive culture.
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