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From: "Kathy T" <>
Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Migrations from Franklin County in the 1850's
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:13:56 -0400
References: <005c01c42adf$b8d11400$0302a8c0@Barb>


I agree that this has been a great discussion... it then reminded me all the
different occupations associated with our ancestors.

I believe that my Johannes and brother Peter Gruber may have been farmers,
at one time, pretty common in that area of Pennsylvania and seeing that they
were either Swiss or German it makes a whole lot of sense. But by 1807
Peter's occupation was a carpenter in the Letter Kenny Township of Franklin
County, Pennsylvania




He was also still listed on the census: 1810, Peter Groover, Franklin
County, Pennsylvania



2. PETER2 GRUBER (UNKNOWN1)1 was born about 17682, and died about March
1819 in Franklin County, Pennsylvania. He married SUSANNA ELIZABETH
SHEARER4.



Notes for PETER GRUBER:



Note 1: From Michael A. Gruber...Peter Gruber of Guilford Township,
Franklin County, Pennsylvania made a will March 29, 1819. The will was
proved on May 13, 1819, at Chambersburg, Franklin County, Pennsylvania.
Wife: Susanna, Sons: Jacob Gruber and Elias Gruber, no daughters.
Executor: John Sholl of Chambersburg, Franklin County, Pennsylvania.
Witnesses: Benjamin Gruver and Peter S. Dechert. Remarks" Jonathon Shearer
appointed guardian of the persons and estates of sons Jacob and Elias all to
live on the farm until April 1, 1820, and continue farming as he has done.
February 4, 1820, John Shull sworn to execute the will.

No record of birth or death of Peter Gruber and his wife has been
found. From the will it is evident that he died between March 29 and May
13, 1819.



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Peter Gruber, born probably between 1775 and 1780 (estimate), died in 1819,
married Susanna Elizabeth Shearer; is a descendent of some older Gruber
branch but data are wanting to determine of which, thought by some to belong
to the Nicholas Gruver branch of Bucks County and by others to be connected
with Henry or Christian Gruber of Berks County. He is the progenitor of
what are termed the Perry, Juniata and Franklin County, Pennsylvania
Gruber's, the descendents writing their name Gruver. He had two sons Jacob
(born 1802, died 1848, three sons and three daughters that grew up); Elias
(Born 1806, died 1881; 2 sons and 5 daughters that grew up). Descendents
living in Perry, Juniata, and Franklin County, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Utah,
and Colorado, and in Washington, D. C.



Notes for SUSANNA ELIZABETH SHEARER:

Note 1: Is still in Franklin County according to 1830 Federal Pennsylvania
Census which shows a Susanna Gruber in the Guilford Township of Franklin
County, Pennsylvania.



According to Franklin County History there was also a Benjamin Gruber who
from 1814-1821 worked at the Alms House in Chambersburg. I do not know how
this Benjamin connects to my Gruber's/Gruver's but I am sure he does.



Samuel the only son of Johannes to live into later life was a tailor, as was
his second born son Benjamin. They both carried on the trade when they moved
to Ohio.



After Samuel's death his wife and all his children moved west to Iowa
possibly because of this eldest son John's wife's family Dorland(t))
migrating there.



One of Peter's son Jacob, born 1802 was a wagon maker in Chambersburg, in
1828.


John Alexander the oldest of Samuel's son
JOHN ALEXANDER4 GRUVER (SAMUEL3, JOHANNES2 GRUBER, UNKNOWN1) was born
January 04, 1826 in Chambersburg, Franklin County, Pennsylvania, and died
March 23, 1915 in Fayette County, Iowa. He married ELIZABETH A. DORLAND20
January 01, 1846 in Wayne County, Ohio, daughter of JAMES DORLAND and ALMIRA
NEWTON. She was born April 12, 1827 in Ashland County, Ohio, and died
November 02, 1907 in Fayette County, Iowa.




Notes for JOHN ALEXANDER GRUVER:

Note 1: From Family Tree Maker by Dineen Leigh Gruver - for John Alexander
Gruver: According to Frances Gruver-Cline, " Grandpa Gruver was a
carpenter, tailor, and had a small store in Elgin, Iowa. They owned and
operated a hotel in Elgin when the railroad was being laid. She served
breakfast and packed lunches for 75 every day. They lived at one time in
West Union and for a time between West Union and Clermont where the children
would watch the Indians go down the Turkey River in canoes for their spring
visit to Indian graves and sometimes on war path."



In Iowa a son of John Alexander's was a harness marker. Most of the sons of
John Alexander, however, worked in some aspect of railroads or building the
railroads across northern Iowa.



Hope this sparks some more interesting discussions.



Kathy





----- Original Message -----
From: "Barb E. Bittinger" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 12:09 PM
Subject: Fw: [PAFRANKL] Migrations from Franklin County in the 1850's


>
> >
> > This has been a wonderful, thought provoking discussion.
> >
> > MISSING IN 1860
> >
> > I agree that land may have been an incentive but dig further into each
> > situation and you might find an interesting story.
> MyGGGGrandfather,James
> > Peck was a strong anti-slave person living in Mason Co Virginia (which
had
> > not become a separate state yet, soon became West Virginia). He packed
> up
> > his grown sons and their
> > families and his wife and children and moved to Minnesota and other
> states
> > west of there. He wrote a journal about his feeling about slavery and
> war,
> > I know that this was a cause of the move. The move has made it a real
> > challenge to trace the sons and the families, none of them were on the
> 1860
> > census. His son, James (my line), died while out west so he and
James's
> > wife and children returned to Mason County.
> >
> > BITTINGERS
> > I am still searching for the family of Cornelius Bittinger, he moved
> from
> > Franklin county in the 1830's and settled in Armstrong Co, PA. If
anyone
> > has a connection, please let me know.
> >
> > Barb. Bittinger
> > Stow, Ohio
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Hawk" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 4:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Migrations from Franklin County in the 1850's
> > >
> > >
> > > > Cheap land and the advent of railroads to ship farm produce at low
> cost
> > > back
> > > > to consumers in the east were big incentives. The land was taken in
> PA,
> > so
> > > > Ohio was the next step west. Richland Co. OH population went from
> 10000
> > in
> > > > 1820 to 45000 in 1840. By 1850, 38000 former Pennsylvanians lived in
> Il,
> > > and
> > > > the number from New England and New York was even larger. In the
> 1860's
> > > they
> > > > were out to the Mississippi. The railroads were advertising trains
to
> > take
> > > > prospective buyers to western Illinois. In the 1870's there was a
> great
> > > > migration to Kansas. See "Cumberland Valley Patterns of Migration,
> > > > 1759-1890", by Clarke Garrett, in the journal, Cumberland County
> > History,
> > > > Vol 17, no.2,(Winter 2000) and, "The Great Migration to Kansas in
the
> > > 70's",
> > > > also by Garrett in same Vol 15, no 2(winter 1998). This pub. has
> several
> > > > articles on the subject, including "The Third Pennsylvania Colony in
> > > Kansas,
> > > > 1878" by Jacob Sackman.
> > > >
> > > > You might be able to get copies of the above from the Cumberland
> County
> > > > Historical Society if there are any back copies left.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "CR" <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 10:58 AM
> > > > Subject: [PAFRANKL] Migrations from Franklin County in the 1850's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Another researcher and I are trying to track down the whereabouts
of
> > > > Samuel
> > > > > Reed, son of Samuel and Elizabeth Knepper Reed, in 1860. By 1862,
> > > "young
> > > > > Sam" was in Missouri where he married. He doesn't seem to have
been
> > in
> > > > > Missouri in 1860, however, nor was he still in Franklin county,
Pa.
> > He
> > > > > shows up in this parents' home in the 1850 census.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know of any strong movement west (or elsewhere) during
> > that
> > > > > decade? I know that a great many Franklin county families ended
up
> in
> > > > > DeKalb county, Il., at one point and another group went to Linn
> > county,
> > > > Iowa
> > > > > in the 60's. Does anyone have any idea where best to look next?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheryll
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
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