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From: "GHutchison" <>
Subject: Re: [PAFRANKL] Re: People who were naturalized in PA- Lancaster Co.
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:06:04 -0500
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A bit of a correction:

The German Reformed were not "later called Lutheran" - the German Reformed
are now (thru several mergers) the United Church of Christ. The two
distinctly different denominations did often share a building, which was
called a "Union" church - but they always retained their own identity.

The Methodists and the Church of England were/are distinctly different. The
Church of Englend is now the Episcopal Church in America - The Methodist are
still the Methodists.

Anne
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From: "Gerry Parchman" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:59 PM
Subject: [PAFRANKL] Re: People who were naturalized in PA- Lancaster Co.


> As I recall from my readings over the years (please correct, if in error),
> the Quakers came to America from England since they were persecuted in
> England for having similar religious views as the Mennonites and
Moravians,
> and even the Huguenots in Germany and France. There was even some
> similarity between the Quakers and the Scottish and Northern Ireland
> Calvinists (Presbyterians) and even the Baptists, since they believed that
> each person and each congregation should have autonomy of belief and
> practice based on their own reading of scripture, and not be dictated to
by
> some ecclesiatical authority. The German Reformed Church (later called
> Lutheran) as well as the Church of England (and later the Methodists)
still
> followed some ecclesiastical authority (bishops and archbishops), as did
the
> Roman Catholic Church, for religious matters. In the authoritarian
> churches, the rules and practices were from the top -- down rather than
> from the bottom -- up.
>
> Before Penn, I think a few of the Quakers may have even gone to Holland to
> get away from English persecution. The Quakers sent messengers from
Penn's
> colony to the Palatine area for the Protestants to come to Pennsylavania
and
> were very tolerant and sympathetic to the German Protestants. In some of
> the frontier settlements, they followed similar practices of worship in
> their meeting houses. Many of the German immigrants were encouraged to
move
> to the frontier, where they could serve as a buffer against the Indians.
> The Scotch-Irish and Germans seemed to be continuing to move west and
> constituted a large proportion of the American pioneers for a hundred
years
> or more. Maybe it was because they kept trying to get away from the
English
> rules and haughtiness that kept catching up to them as they made the
> wilderness habitable for the less adventuresome and stodgy English who
> brought their rules, regulations, and religion with them?
>
> Gerry Parchman
>
>
>

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