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From: "Marie A Robinson" <>
Subject: [PALEHIGH-L] RE: property at Maiden Creek-HOLDER(KISTLER,EVERET,KREITZ)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 19:23:31 -0600
In-Reply-To: <LPBBIIFGGBNLPHNCOGOIEEFFCHAA.highfiel@gte.net>


I suggest that a name search for John Holder be ordered through the Pa.
State Archives in Harrisburg. For $5, they could find all the warrants,
surveys, and patents that are attributed to the name of John Holder. From
that search, they could order copies of these warrants, surveys (maps), and
patents. If the land was patented by someone else, it will show up in the
search. It will also name the township the land was located in at the time
of patenting, as well as the township name at the time of surveying. A
search like this will also turn up land that John Holder patented even if he
wasn't the warrantee.

The patent will indicate the trail of ownership if the warrant was sold (by
deed) and patented by someone else--it will indicate the dates of the
deed(s). If they are lucky, and if the land was patented many years later,
the name of the township will be that much closer to the current name. To
find the current-day location, they should seek out the deeds of the patent
holder conveying the land because at some point, the land was sold or
inherited. By pursuing subsequent deeds, a more current township name will
be found.

I think the Holder information they found in the book named below is
excellent information (I'd love to see this book!), but I think they need to
find the official information from the Archives in addition to what's in the
book.

Marie.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tom and Wendy Hiefield [mailto:]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 12:55 AM
>To:
>Subject: property at Maiden Creek-HOLDER(KISTLER,EVERET,KREITZ)
>
>
>Greetings. Thanks to marvels of electronics we communicate with you in
>Carbon Co. My cousin and I have the following questions. Please see
>message below.
>
>Thanks for assistance, comments. w. (Wendy Holder Hiefield)
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: rmoore
>Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 1:42 PM
>Subject: Maiden Creek
>
>*Wishing to find the exact location of John Holder's lands
>(after 1735?), and Maiden Creek the east to west flowing creek,
>which is just south of Lynport and just north of New Tripoli.
>On my map it is labelled Ontelaunee Creek. On another map,
>which I have, it shows this creek as Maiden Creek. There are 2
>tributaries from the Blue Mountains to the north, one comes in
>at Lynport and the other maybe a mile west of New Tripoli. The
>hamlet of Messerville is on or near this one.
>
>Anyone I talked to had never heard of where the church site
>[Moravian] was supposed to be. *Comment?
>
>On this plan, *a block of land, labelled John Holder, is near
>the "Creek". The block was surveyed in 1787 and resurveyed
>in 1800. No north arrow, no dimensions or acreages given,
>just the draft date in the ORIGINAL SURVEYS OF LEHIGH
>COUNTY, 1816, by Isaac Chapman.
>
>Upstream on the creek, both sides, is a block maybe 1000 to
>1200 acres called "The Proprietaries".
>
>There are a number of blocks of land labelled Thomas and
>John EVERET in the same general area.
>
>Another parcel in this same area is labelled Adam Kreitz. On
>a map (photocopy) from the LEHIGH COUNTY ATLAS of
>1876, Lynn Twp. area, there are a number of properties
>labelled "Creitz" and a number labelled "Reitz", as well as a
>number of Everet properties. [I wonder if the Rex of the
>Castor book, page 196, "Hannah Holder married Stophel Rex",
>is a corruption of Reitz/KREITZ/Creitz. The reference in the
>book was the church records of Allemengel and Gnadenhutten.
>Note: I have a lot of the baptisms, burials, etc., but no
>indication of the marriage of Hannah.]
>
>In THE HISTORY OF LEHIGH COUNTY by Roberts, Stoudt,
>Krick and Dietrich pub., Allentown, 1914, page 810, Lynn Twp
>land warrants: John Everitt warrant, 4 May 1759, 56 acres;
>page 835, Moravians, on the farm of Samuel KISTLER was an
>*old graveyard, stones placed 1746 to 1770. [No idea where
>Sam lived!!]
>
>bob moore
>
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