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Subject: [PANORTHA-L] WARNERS
Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 17:01:38 -0500


My posting on the Northampton Archives and the Warner family has
generated some discussion. Here, for now, are some answers to questions
sent directly to me:

Re: Archives. I had no appointment and no problem being admitted. It
probably is a good idea to call first to make sure your visit is
convenient. The building is to the right of the prison and there was a
sign pointing right to the door for the Archives.

To Joyce Diehl: Do you know when your Anna Maria Warner was born? There
was an Anna Maria born in this family, 13 July 1803. In case it turns
out that Michael and Ursula are not her parents, you may want to look at
John and Catherine instead.
Alternately, I have some Name Index pages from Easton Pub Lib and see
there are some entries for Michael and Ursula which look like the source
is Fackenthal. Probably burial records for Bucks Co. Do you want the
pages?

To Deb: The names Jacob, Mary and John are familiar to me but pretty
unspecific. I don't have any Pobst (are you sure it isn't Probst?) in my
database. Do you have any dates?

To anyone else having Warner/Werner questions, I have several Northampton
county outlines which have helped me sort out this family. There was the
family headed by Jacob Werner in Bushkill Twp and the Moravian family in
Bethlehem headed by Daniel Warner with an A. The way I've gotten to
where I have has been to eliminate these two families first. There were
many, many more Warner/Werners in the area and, if you have anyone you
want me to check, I have several records that don't connect to mine but
might connect to yours.
Marilyn


On Sat, 03 Mar 2001 12:58:36 -0500 jack diehl <>
writes:
> Hi Larry,
>
> Yes, I'm on the Bucks County and Lehigh County lists. I should post
> to
> them too. I thought I'd jump in here though since we're on the
> subject of
> Warners. I really just discovered my Warner ancestry (well, I knew
> that
> Anthony Bierly married Anna Maria Warner - but that's all I knew).
> It was
> actually because of these lists that I found them. People were
> talking
> about Warners in Northampton and Bucks Counties - so I thought I
> ought to
> go looking a bit in those counties. And I stumbled onto them. So -
> thank
> you listers! After 20+ years of research it is highly unusual for me
> to
> get back another generation so I am quite excited.
>
> Joyce Diehl
>
> "Larry A. Warner" wrote:
>
> > Hi Joyce,
> >
> > You are more than "Welcome" to ask or add anything that you might
> > have on Warner's.
> > Also are you subscribed to other lists such as Lehigh Co. and
> > the Warner roots web site?
> > regards,
> > Larry Warner
> >
> > On Fri, 02 Mar 2001 19:46:05 -0500 jack diehl <>
> > writes:
> > > Hi Listers,
> > >
> > > As long as we are on the subject of Warners, can I throw in my
> two
> > > cents? I
> > > just discovered that my ancestor was a Michael Warner of
> > > Springfield, Bucks
> > > Co. His wife was Ursula and they had: Anna Maria m. Anthony
> Bierly
> > > (my line),
> > > Anna Margaret b. 6/19/1757 (St. Paul's, U. Saucon Twp., Lehigh
> Co.)
> > > m. Henry
> > > Hering, Catharine Barbara b. 6/24/1759 (IBID) m. Peter Ziegler
> of
> > > Durham
> > > Twp., Elizabeth m. George Barron of Springfield Twp., Maria
> Sarah m.
> > > William
> > > Heft and Michael. I have more information on each of these
> children
> > > except
> > > Michael Jr. I realize this is the Northampton Co. list but
> Lehigh
> > > Co. was
> > > once Northampton, wasn't it? Would be eager to learn more about
> this
> > > family.
> > >
> > > Joyce Diehl
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Larry and all-
> > > > Ordinarily I would have sent this message directly to Larry
> but
> > > because
> > > > there is some broader principle at work here, I'm sharing it
> with
> > > the
> > > > group.
> > > > I was doing research at the Marx Room at Easton P.L. on
> Tuesday
> > > but,
> > > > having looked at everything of relevance there I was starting
> to
> > > run out
> > > > of ideas.
> > > > Luckily a professional genealogist - Dick Musselman - gave me
> a
> > > > suggestion that worked out very well. He suggested
> Northampton
> > > County
> > > > tax lists which are available at the Archives, a building near
> the
> > > county
> > > > courthouse in Easton.
> > > > As a result, I spent the rest of the day there. The books are
> > > arranged
> > > > by year, starting in about 1792 with some partial areas
> available
> > > for
> > > > earlier years. They're pretty easy to use - easier, I
> thought,
> > > than
> > > > conveyances which I'd already mastered. Broken down by
> township
> > > and then
> > > > alphabetically by surname: all the B's will be together but
> not
> > > > necessarily in strict alpha order. After those lists are
> lists
> > > for
> > > > single men and these are in no apparent order.
> > > >
> > > > What I found of interest to you, Larry, is that the ONLY
> WARNER in
> > > Mt.
> > > > Bethel from about 1801 to about 1819 was John Warner.
> Thereafter
> > > John
> > > > Warner appears until 1833 and there's also a Daniel Warner
> listed
> > > from
> > > > about 1819 to about 1839. (I didn't look at each year but I
> did
> > > a
> > > > thorough spot check of them between 1792-1840.)
> > > >
> > > > There didn't appear to be any direct relationship between the
> two
> > > > Warners. That is, their names were not necessarily adjacent
> one
> > > another
> > > > which, in a not-strict alpha sequence could mean just about
> > > anything.
> > > > However, in just the 1830 list, John Warner is listed with
> Thomas
> > > Warner
> > > > right below. This WAS a find because my John Warner had his
> son
> > > Thomas
> > > > born 1807, so this appearance of Thomas at the age of 23 would
> be
> > > right
> > > > on target. That tells me that the John Warner in Lower Mt.
> Bethel
> > > is my
> > > > John Warner, father of at least Jacob - b. 1791, Thomas, b.
> 1807
> > > and
> > > > Elizabeth b. 1809. and probably your William, b. 1813, too.
> > > >
> > > > Now, the first appearance of William Warner is in the 1834
> list -
> > > when HE
> > > > would have been 21. He's listed for Forks Township and his
> > > occupation is
> > > > "miller". His name appears directly below the same Thomas
> Warner
> > > (who
> > > > was in Forks as a miller in 1833) and a few names from Jacob
> > > Warner,
> > > > miller, who has been in the Forks tax list since 1828.
> > > > As you know, both Thomas and William Warner married women from
> > > Forks
> > > > Township families in the mid-1830's.
> > > >
> > > > In 1835, 1836 and 1837, William Warner was listed for Easton
> with
> > > no
> > > > occupation noted and by 1838 and 1839 he was back in Forks
> again,
> > > with
> > > > Jacob and Thomas and two new names appear: George Warner and
> Jacob
> > > J.
> > > > Warner, both millers. They could have been sons of Jacob.
> > > > This is as far as I went but for anyone who's gotten to this
> > > point, you
> > > > can see how these would be invaluable for filling in the
> spaces
> > > between
> > > > census and deed records.
> > > > Hope this helps,
> > > > Marilyn
> > > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2001 22:08:45 -0500 "Larry A. Warner"
> > > > <> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > To everyone who has replied to me on the
> > > > > subject "Information regarding Warner's".
> > > > >
> > > > > To those of you who gave me wonderful suggestions and
> > > > > information and those who continue to do so, as a man
> > > > > of 80 years old trying to find his ggrandfather's parents
> > > > > and siblings, although I haven't reached that part of the
> > > > > search yet, the response has just been unbelievable.
> > > > > It certainly is heart warming to know so many people
> > > > > who want to help others in their quest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore, I want to say a big "Thank you" and to
> > > > > acknowledge everyone at this time.
> > > > >
> > > > > For more information regarding William Warner,
> > > > > which might help. The 1840 census has him living
> > > > > in Forks Township, Northanpton Co., outside of
> > > > > Easton PA..
> > > > > He married in 1833 to Margaretha Arner at the First Reformed
> > > > > German Church In Easton, PA. But who his parents and
> > > > > siblings were when he was born in 1813, is any ones
> > > > > guess. It is possible his father's name was John or
> > > > > Jacob Warner.
> > > > > Where John or Jacob migrated from or were born, is another
> > > > > question. There were a lot of John and Jacob Warner's
> > > > > possibly not even related. It is believed they were born
> > > > > also in Penna., not necessarily Northampton Co. but
> > > > > could have been.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you all again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Larry Warner
> > > > > At The Lutheran Home in Topton, PA
> > > > >
> > > > >
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