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Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:11:36 -0500
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Some records can be accessed in more than one place and you have to know where to go to get what. City directories, for example, are at my local library (in FL) for 15 cents per page. The FLP will send copies for 50 cents each. They are at the HSP for 50 cents per page. The Germantown Historic Society does not have the complete set and will send 10 copies for $25, i.e. $2.50 per page. You can also copy them at the FHL for about 17 cents per page. At an FHC, you have to order first the index and then the registration film for $3.25 each, then pay for a copy. One problem, of course, is whether you have access to Philly, the FHL or an FHC. If not, the GHS will be the fastest, if they have what you want.

Similarly, marriage registrations through mid-1916 are 17 cents per page at the FHL, 50 cents per page at the HSP, 75 cents per page at the City Archives or $30 (yep, THIRTY DOLLARS) at city hall. Unfortunately, after mid 1916 you have no other option than city hall and $30. Other than city hall, you have to know which facilities have what. City Hall will be the fastest.

Similarly, death records can be accessed in more than one place.

As for births, unless the child was born in a hospital, the odds of actually finding the birth record have been 1 in 3 for my families, and that means all the way through 1919. Births were reported any time the deliverer got around to it, not necessarily soon after the birth, and the records are by when the birth was registered, not when it occurred. To further complicate this, if a physician thought a child would not live, the birth was often not reported, even if the child actually did live. After several frustrating and fruitless searches, I limited my search for birth records to close relatives or someone whose birth would prove a point.

Merle

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Disbrow <>
To:
Sent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:24:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila


I'm glad I am not the only one who thinks those prices are rediculous.

I've sent away from a birth certificate (luckily, I knew the date). But I
look at my wife's descendants from Scioto Co, Ohio... and Scioto has free
access to these older records.

On 12/7/05, keith hammond <> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> just got current prices from city archives !
>
> The charge for b/d/m with a date $10.00, or if you only know the
> year it's $40.00 per year
>
> Sorry to say far to much for myself to pay as i have a 5 year span to
> search
> for a marriage i guess my US family history must come to an end.
> Thanks for all the answers and help from the list.You are all so very
> kind.Happy christmas to you all.
>
> Keith in Malta.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Helene D'Auria" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 2:24 AM
> Subject: RE: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila
>
>
> > It's worse - they want one check for $15.00 and one for $20.00. They
> also
> > have to have exact name of both spouses (including maiden name of
> bride).
> >
> > City Archives is great for births - and comparatively cheap.
> >
> > Helene
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [mailto:]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 3:28 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: [PAPHL] Re: m/birth 1880 -1900 Phila
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12 06 2005 6:00:31 PM,
>
> > writes:
> >
> > << ... i would like to find marriage and birth certificates between
> > 1880 -
> > 1900 is this possible for Philadelphia ?
> > Does a list or index exist ? i have found 2 birth dates on familysearch
> > but
> > how can i order a copy of the certificate or indeed check if these
> dates
> > are
> > correct ? ... I live in Malta Europe and have no access to records or
> > Lds
> > library. >>
> >
> > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
> >
> > Both marriage and birth records [indexed] exist for Phila. between 1880
> -
> > 1900. You can order marriages by writing to Phila. City Hall, Register
> of
> > Wills, Marriages Rm. 415, Broad and Market Sts., Phila. PA 19107. Last I
> > heard they
> > wanted two $15.00 cks per marriage. [ph# 215-686-2233]. Births may be
> > ordered from Phila. City Archives. 3101 Market St., Phila,. PA 19104.
> Not
> > sure
> > which years marriages are available at the city archives to mail orders.
> > [ph#
> > 215-685-9400]
> >
> >
> > Milton E. Botwinick [professional genealogist]
> >
> > http://hometown.aol.com/botwinick/myhomepage/index.html
> >
> >
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Helpful abbreviations: (APS)American Philosophical Society,
[ARI]Annenberg Research Institute,(BI)Balch Institute,[DU] Drexel University
Library, FLP)Free Library of Philadelphia, [GHS] Germantown Historical Society,
GSP)Genealogical Society of PA, (HSP)Historical Society of PA, LC)Library
Company, [NARS] National Archives Regional Branch-Philadelphia, PCA)Philadelphia
City Archives,(PCH)Philadelphia City Hall, (PJAC)Philadelphia Jewish Archives
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