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From: "Dutton Family" <>
Subject: Re: [PAPHL] PAPHILAD Digest, Vol 1, Issue 44
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:54:18 -0400
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Hello- In reference to the query abt. Wharton St Church, it maybe was the
Wharton St M. E. Church, and my family attended there, during the 1840-50
time-frame, HENRY H. EDEL-EDELL and spouse MARGARET ANN PENNINGTON, and
children CHRISTIANA and ANN...... the Records for this Church are on 2
films at the LDS FHC...... my EDEL-EDELLs lived in that area of So Philly,
around Reed, and Wharton St, and 5th , and HENRY was a Produce Dealer,
he was in the 112th 2nd Penn Vols Hvy Artillery during the Civil War...
they are buried in Fernwood Cemetery ..... but when HENRY died Oct. 1876
his body was held in the Wharton St Vault, until burial the next Spring in
Fernwood...... The Wharton St M. E. Church is no longer in that
building, it is now a different Evangelical Congregation, I wrote them
last year but never got a reply...... Sally .----- Original
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Subject: PAPHILAD Digest, Vol 1, Issue 44


>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Wharton Street Church (dan Bruynell)
> 2. masonic lodge website ()
> 3. Re: Neighborhood Questions (Regina Nau)
> 4. Re: Neighborhood Questions (Mary Finley)
> 5. Re: Neighborhood Questions ()
> 6. Re: Missing Ancestors ()
> 7. Re: Neighborhood Questions (ltguidetti)
> 8. Re: Neighborhood Questions (Wanda Bradley)
> 9. Re: Neighborhood Questions (phillylorri)
> 10. Re: Neighborhood Questions (phillylorri)
> 11. Re: Neighborhood Questions ()
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 00:26:33 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dan Bruynell <>
> Subject: [PAPHL] Wharton Street Church
> To:
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> Hello All
> My GGgrandfather Joseph E. Abbott was buried at the WHARTON ST. CHURCH
> in 1863. I understand that all remains were tranferred to MT.MORIAH. My
> question are there any records(transcriptions ect.) that were made before
> the transfer? I am looking for death dates for several of the family that
> died just before Joseph and probaly just after Joseph died including his
> wife Christianna,his daughter Mary T. and possibly his sons Cauncey and
> Henry. Also his mother in law Elizabeth Stewart that may also have been
> intered there. Thank you for any help. Joseph and Christianna lived on
> S.Seventh St. at the time of thier deaths.
>
> Dan Bruynell
>
> PS: Is there anyone else researching this family?
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 04:09:49 -0500
> From:
> Subject: [PAPHL] masonic lodge website
> To:
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> I have a 4 week old baby and the brain cells have yet to return, at
> least that's the excuse I'm using for now. Here's the website:
>
> http://www.njfreemasonry.org/
>
>
>
> Laura
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 07:10:30 -0400
> From: "Regina Nau" <>
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
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> for maps...go to mapquest.com and type in the address.
>
>
>>From: "Cheryl Stromdahl" <>
>>Reply-To:
>>To: <>
>>Subject: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
>>Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:56:04 -0700
>>
>>Hi List!
>>I have never been to Philadelphia and have a few questions. The first
>>involves neighborhoods. I am trying to figure out what neighborhood these
>>two addresses were in:
>>2701 Brown St.
>> and
>>687 Fairmont.
>>Are these in South Philly?
>>
>>Having received the ol' "no record found" from the Philly Powers That Be
>>sending for death certs, I am trying to go through the Catholic Parishes.
>>
>>In the obit for Helen Dervin, her funeral Mass was held at Assumption
>>B.V.M. Assumption is closed and the records went to St.John the
>>Evangelist
>>church. I e-mailed them and they were less than thrilled to hear from me.
>>Can you imagine???? LOL!!!! Wish they'd all get irritated enough to put
>>the info online! Anyway, they have a year backlog. Need exact dates, not
>>guesses. I do not know her husband, Michael's exact date in Nov 1913, nor
>>have I found an obit. So I want to order at LDS FHC and found a film for
>>Assumption. It is listed in Manayunk. But the address I found for it
>>online was on Spring Garden St. Is this the right Assumption?
>>
>>Now for my next question. The Requiem Mass for my Hugh BREEN was held at
>>St. Francis Chiurch in Oct 1915. He lived at 2701 Brown St. There are a
>>few by the name of St. Francis (de Salles, Xavier). Diocese online
>>doesn't
>>give years for all. Any ideas?
>>
>>Thanks for your help. This is an awesome list!
>>Cheryl
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:06:35 -0400
> From: "Mary Finley" <>
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <006401c6bbac$43b85240$>
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>
> Good morning!
> Both 2701 Brown and 687 Fairmount are north of Market St.
> 2701 Brown St. is Ward 15 and the parish is St. Francis Xavier located at
> 24th and Green Sts., Philadelphia 19130-3196, founded 1839.
> 687 Fairmount Ave. is Ward 13. Assumption B.V.M. was formerly located at
> 1131 Spring Garden St. To my knowedge there was never an Assumption
> parish
> in Manayunk. Perhaps that is another denomination.
> I doubt very much that any parish in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia is
> able
> to place sacramental records online.
> Regards,
> Mary McCanney Finley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl Stromdahl" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:56 PM
> Subject: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
>
>
>> Hi List!
>> I have never been to Philadelphia and have a few questions. The first
>> involves neighborhoods. I am trying to figure out what neighborhood
>> these
>> two addresses were in:
>> 2701 Brown St.
>> and
>> 687 Fairmont.
>> Are these in South Philly?
>>
>> Having received the ol' "no record found" from the Philly Powers That Be
>> sending for death certs, I am trying to go through the Catholic Parishes.
>>
>> In the obit for Helen Dervin, her funeral Mass was held at Assumption
>> B.V.M. Assumption is closed and the records went to St.John the
>> Evangelist church. I e-mailed them and they were less than thrilled to
>> hear from me. Can you imagine???? LOL!!!! Wish they'd all get
>> irritated
>> enough to put the info online! Anyway, they have a year backlog. Need
>> exact dates, not guesses. I do not know her husband, Michael's exact
>> date
>> in Nov 1913, nor have I found an obit. So I want to order at LDS FHC and
>> found a film for Assumption. It is listed in Manayunk. But the address
>> I
>> found for it online was on Spring Garden St. Is this the right
>> Assumption?
>>
>> Now for my next question. The Requiem Mass for my Hugh BREEN was held at
>> St. Francis Chiurch in Oct 1915. He lived at 2701 Brown St. There are a
>> few by the name of St. Francis (de Salles, Xavier). Diocese online
>> doesn't give years for all. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks for your help. This is an awesome list!
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:06:44 EDT
> From:
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
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>
> The Brown St. address is in Fairmount. The other address is in Northern
> Liberties.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:09:28 EDT
> From:
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Missing Ancestors
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Marriage License Bureau, City Hall. Philadelphia, PA, 19107.
> I think that the cost is now two checks: one for $15.00 and one for $20.00
> both made out to the City of Philadelphia. There may be a problem with
> British
> money.
> You may have to contact the Marriage License Bureau directly.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:27:19 -0400
> From: ltguidetti <>
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To:
> Message-ID:
> <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Brown and Fairmount are in the Art Museum area. Fairmont is probably an
> older or mis-spelling, in any case it's not current. The Art Museum area
> is just a little northwest of City Hall. Look for the Ben Franklin
> parkway
> on a map, then look north. Brown & Fairmount are parallel.
>
> I don't know what you mean by "years." You might try the online Yellow
> Pages, and call the main parish office to find out more about the church
> you
> are looking for. I know it's not St. Francis De Sales is in West Philly.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Lynn
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:18:22 -0400
> From: "Wanda Bradley" <>
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <001a01c6bbbe$ac52dd90$>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Why not just "Google" it for directions and address.
>
> Wanda
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ltguidetti" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
>
>
>> Brown and Fairmount are in the Art Museum area. Fairmont is probably an
>> older or mis-spelling, in any case it's not current. The Art Museum
>> area
>> is just a little northwest of City Hall. Look for the Ben Franklin
>> parkway
>> on a map, then look north. Brown & Fairmount are parallel.
>>
>> I don't know what you mean by "years." You might try the online Yellow
>> Pages, and call the main parish office to find out more about the church
>> you
>> are looking for. I know it's not St. Francis De Sales is in West
>> Philly.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>> Lynn
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:23:11 -0600
> From: "phillylorri" <>
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <002f01c6bbd0$1c634fa0$>
>
> they are both in west phila
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl Stromdahl" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:56 PM
> Subject: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
>
>
>> Hi List!
>> I have never been to Philadelphia and have a few questions. The first
> involves neighborhoods. I am trying to figure out what neighborhood these
> two addresses were in:
>> 2701 Brown St.
>> and
>> 687 Fairmont.
>> Are these in South Philly?
>>
>> Having received the ol' "no record found" from the Philly Powers That Be
> sending for death certs, I am trying to go through the Catholic Parishes.
>>
>> In the obit for Helen Dervin, her funeral Mass was held at Assumption
> B.V.M. Assumption is closed and the records went to St.John the
> Evangelist
> church. I e-mailed them and they were less than thrilled to hear from me.
> Can you imagine???? LOL!!!! Wish they'd all get irritated enough to put
> the info online! Anyway, they have a year backlog. Need exact dates, not
> guesses. I do not know her husband, Michael's exact date in Nov 1913, nor
> have I found an obit. So I want to order at LDS FHC and found a film for
> Assumption. It is listed in Manayunk. But the address I found for it
> online was on Spring Garden St. Is this the right Assumption?
>>
>> Now for my next question. The Requiem Mass for my Hugh BREEN was held at
> St. Francis Chiurch in Oct 1915. He lived at 2701 Brown St. There are a
> few by the name of St. Francis (de Salles, Xavier). Diocese online
> doesn't
> give years for all. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks for your help. This is an awesome list!
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:28:26 -0600
> From: "phillylorri" <>
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To: <>
> Message-ID: <003301c6bbd0$d7d092c0$>
>
> St Francis de Sales 1890 46 an Springfield ave in west phila
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cheryl Stromdahl" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 9:56 PM
> Subject: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
>
>
>> Hi List!
>> I have never been to Philadelphia and have a few questions. The first
> involves neighborhoods. I am trying to figure out what neighborhood these
> two addresses were in:
>> 2701 Brown St.
>> and
>> 687 Fairmont.
>> Are these in South Philly?
>>
>> Having received the ol' "no record found" from the Philly Powers That Be
> sending for death certs, I am trying to go through the Catholic Parishes.
>>
>> In the obit for Helen Dervin, her funeral Mass was held at Assumption
> B.V.M. Assumption is closed and the records went to St.John the
> Evangelist
> church. I e-mailed them and they were less than thrilled to hear from me.
> Can you imagine???? LOL!!!! Wish they'd all get irritated enough to put
> the info online! Anyway, they have a year backlog. Need exact dates, not
> guesses. I do not know her husband, Michael's exact date in Nov 1913, nor
> have I found an obit. So I want to order at LDS FHC and found a film for
> Assumption. It is listed in Manayunk. But the address I found for it
> online was on Spring Garden St. Is this the right Assumption?
>>
>> Now for my next question. The Requiem Mass for my Hugh BREEN was held at
> St. Francis Chiurch in Oct 1915. He lived at 2701 Brown St. There are a
> few by the name of St. Francis (de Salles, Xavier). Diocese online
> doesn't
> give years for all. Any ideas?
>>
>> Thanks for your help. This is an awesome list!
>> Cheryl
>>
>>
>> *********
>> Visit the threaded archives of this list:
> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/PAPHILAD
>> *********
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 10:28:13 EDT
> From:
> Subject: Re: [PAPHL] Neighborhood Questions
> To:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know what happened to St. Gregory's Catholic Church/School in
> west Philadelphia? I cannot find information anywhere.
>
> Additionally, my great grandmother, Mary Kelly Hultz is listed as widow in
> 1900 Philadelphia Census. However, nothing seems to "add up." Census
> states
> she was widowed about 21 years, but has children 15 and younger. States
> children's father, HULTZ, was born in Ireland. I did find a FRANK HULTZ
> being an
> inmate at the Penn. State Pen, but his age does not seem to match up with
> hers
> and the oldest child. It's very confusing to me. Any help would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thank you
> Sally
>
>
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