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From: Diana Dobbins <>
Subject: Re: [PATE] Emanuel C Pate Sevier Co., TN - Coosa Co.,AL - Files AL85 - M95
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:11:56 -0600
References: <4D843DA3.7090403@nettally.com>
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I would be willing to bet a dollar that every single Pate in early Jefferson and Sevier Co's, TN is descended from Anthony & Sarah English Pate and that includes Emanuel Pate of Coosa. Of course the Jacob Pate in Jefferson is a known descendant of Anthony thru his son Jeremiah Pate & Christina Harmon. But Anthony and Sarah's sons John, Matthew, Thomas, and Anthony were all in that area and had descendants. Problem is there are too many burned courthouses to prove it...hence the dollar only bet.

Diana
Descendant of Nancy Pate Lindsay of Jefferson Co, TN and Coosa Co, AL who I believe but can't prove beyond a shadow of doubt to be the descendant of Thomas Pate Jr. & Hannah, Thomas Pate Sr & Catherine, Anthony Pate & Sarah English.




> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 01:22:43 -0400
> From:
> To:
> Subject: [PATE] Emanuel C Pate Sevier Co., TN - Coosa Co., AL - Files AL85 - M95
>
> I need to make several points regarding Emanuel C Pate
> 1. Earlier this month I proffered an OPINION that Emanuel C Pate was
> Emanuel Canterbury Pate, a son or grandson of Samuel Pate and Hannah
> Canterbury of Sevier Co., TN
> 2. That OPINION was speculative and I need to and do hereby stand down
> from that OPINION.
> 3. Samuel Pate and his wife, Hannah Canterbury of Sevier Co., TN did
> have a son whom they named William Canterbury Pate (14 Oct 1829-24 Dec 1865)
> 4. A careful review of the records of Sevier Co., TN and its parent
> county, Jefferson, will disclose close ties and intermarriage between
> the Pate, Atchley and Canterbury familes
> 5. The Pate, Canterbury and perhaps the Atchley families of Sevier Co.,
> TN were slave owners. Some of the slaves held by Samuel Pate perhaps
> were manumitted or given freedom
> 6. A review of the records of Coosa Co., AL will lead one to the
> conclusion that some of the Pate and Atchley families relocated there
> from TN; most likely Sevier Co., TN
> 7. The first marriage of Emanuel C Pate to Pamelia Atchley (13 Aug 1846
> Coosa Co., AL) was troubled. They were estranged and separated by 9 Apr
> 1850 and lawful divorced by 17 Feb 1856
> 8. The child identified as Sarah E E Pate b 1861 in the 1860 Census was
> most likely a daughter of Emanuel's second wife,
> 7. The confirmed facts regarding Emanuel C Pate-
>
> Name: Emmanuel C Pate
> Sex: Male
>
> Individual Facts
> Birth abt 1822 TN
> Misc 9 Apr 1850 (about age 28) Petition for Writ of Habeus Corpus vs Pamelia Atchley Pate for custody of son Walter Richard Pate; Coosa Co., AL Probate Court, Coosa Co, AL
> Burial Arkadelphia, Cullman Co, AL
> Ref # AL85
>
> Marriages/Children
> 1. Pamelia Atchley (1824- )
> Marriage 13 Aug 1846 (about age 24) Coosa Co, AL
> Divorce 17 Feb 1856 (about age 34)
> Children Walter Richard Pate (1850- )
>
> 2. Elizabeth Jane Robinson-Delaney (1841- )
> Marriage 18 Mar 1866 (about age 44) Coosa Co, AL
> Children
> Sarah E E Pate (1861- )
> Samuel Pate (1869-1934)
> Thomas Pate (1870-1955)
> Lucinda "Lucy" Pate (1875- )
> Mary L Pate (1877- )
>
>
> Notes: Emmanuel C Pate
>
> General: CENSUS:
> 1850 Coosa Co, AL - w/Jacob J& Lucinda Richards
> 1850 Coosa Co, AL - Slave Schedule
> 1860 Coosa Co, AL - w/Jacob J& Lucinda Richards
> 1870 Coosa Co, AL
> 1880 Blount Co, AL
>
> MARRIAGES:
> COOSA CO, AL MARRIAGE RECORDS BK A-C (1834-1865); Coosa Co Hist Soc;
> (1) Bk A, p 227; L/12 Aug; M/13 Aug 1846; Emanuel Pate& Pamelia Atchley; Md by Benjamin Foscue, MG
> EARLY ALABAMA MARRIAGES; Family Adventures
> (1) Coosa Co, AL; 13 Aug 1846; Emanuel Pate& Pamelia Atchley
> COOSA CO, AL MARRIAGE RECORDS BK A-C (1834-1865); Coosa Co Hist Soc
> (2) Bk D, Pg 14; License 16 Mar; Marriage 18 Mar 1866; Emanuel Pate& Jane Dulaney; Md by Esaiah Holmes, MG
> COOSA CO, AL MARRIAGES (1865-68) (1878-82); LDS Film #1290264;
> (2) License 16 Mar; Marriage 18 Mar 1866; Emmanuel Pate& Jane Dulany; Md by Esaiah Holmes, MG
>
> DIVORCE:
> AL DIVORCES, STATE LEGISLATURE;
> (1) 17 Feb 1856; Emmanuel Pate vs Permelia Pate - Randolph-Chamber District
>
> MISC:
> 9 Apr 1850 Probate Records; Emanuel Pate files for Writ of Habeus Corpus stating he wants possession of his son, Walter Richard Pate, said son of Emanuel Pate& Pamelia Pate Abram Atchley& Pamelia Pate apparently delivered the child (per John Wallace)
>
> MISC:
> Working on this line;
> Karen Borden, CA (;)
> Brenda Green ()
> J D Weeks (;http://www.jd.weeks.net;
> http://www.my-ged.com/weeks)
>
>
> 8. It is reasonable to conclude that Emanuel C Pate had some close ties
> to Mrs Lucinda Jacobs as he was enumerated in the 1850 and 1860 censuses
> of Coosa Co., AL in her household. This Lucinda Jacobs was an age peer
> of Samuel Pate in Sevier Co., TN.
>
> Challenging-
>
> Joel
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