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Subject: [PERTH] Re: [ANGUS] (no subject) More Murray's from Dun
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:33:20 EDT

Gordon,

Explained this to you but not the list, so will do it again for those I sent
stuff to who may be in the dark..... (monument inscriptions for Angus or Perth)

The Monument Inscription books contain a main index in the rear of the
volumes. These are not the one parish little pamphlets that Tay Valley publishes
but the dozen or so parishes by the Scottish Genealogical Society. The main
index and the little ones for each cemetery do not give first names, so you have
to look up all the graves if looking for one particular name.

Under each parish there are notes for research that tell you what records are
available which are a great help to me, which books are written for local
history, which volume of books like the Fasti Ecclesiae Scotticanae for
Established Church, or the Annuals of the Free church has the ministers for that
parish.... there are a number of volumes so it lists which volume covers that
particular parish.

Fellow listers have been kind enough to look up my Powrie ministers in the
Fasti or Annuals... but they contain great info. The ministers have great bios
in these books.

There is also a map of the individual cemetery with the numbers of the graves
marked on it. Which would help avoid the head-stone hop scotdh to find a
person's grave, if you are going to follow up by going to photograph that grave.

The monument inscriptions include descriptions of decoration so the ox yoke
is not saying what the father left his son but that that tool, like many a
Scottish stone, has ancient tools carved on them to denote what the occupant would
have used in life.... Scissors and iron for taylor, hammer and chivel for
mason, etc.

The stones were expensive so rather than give a lengthy list of names and
dates, many just have the initals... like IM, SM, RM could be Isabel Murray,
Susan Murray, Richard Murray... you will often see an old stone revised.. with old
inscriptions effaced and new information added. IF there is an (ED: )
referenced it usually means there was an earlier book of monument inscriptions that
included that stone and what it read in that book(and they may be quesses in
the case of badly worn stones)

They list if the stone is broken, and while lairs are not listed seperately
you will see a number listed as 132-4 which means 132-134 it is likely a lair,
or family grouping of stones.

There is a nice preface to the volumes that explains the various kinds of
records in Scotland, including sassines, retour of heirs and others.... not just
the B/M/D records.

They are not very expensive and since the volunteer societies gain through
the sell of these books, I would tell anyone who is searching in a particular
parish to buy a copy of the book for that parish... I learned a lot.

http://www.scotsgenealogy.com/ sells MI books.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/mindex.html has an interesting list of societies. I
go up and down GEnUki to see what new goodies they have added. I especially
appreciate the list of council offices which care for particular cemeteries

http://www.genuki.org.uk/Societies/Scotland.html Scottish societies list. I
use the http://www.safhs.org.uk/ Scottish Association of family history
societies links page to go easily to one after another looking for publications.
Check out all of them, or you are missing some great books and maps.The only
problem I have is that one of my favs Abertay Historical Society isn't a member so
I don't get back to them as often as I should.

The Dundee Wellgate Branch sent me two great maps... One is a parish boundary
map for Dundee, and another is the parish boundaries for all the parishes in
Perthshire.

http://www.one-name.org/ Guild for one name studies.. I just got my package
as a new member and was impressed by the resources they list... if any of you
out there are a nut like me that is taking on a whole surname -You've seen
those t-shirt that say British by birth, Scottish by the grace of God? Well mine
would read - By the grace of God a rare Scottish name. POWRIE Wae Hae!

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/#Cemeteries gives information on cemeteries and
monument inscriptions. Somewhere on it, I found a list of all the council
office addresses and which parish cemeteries they have jurisdiction over each
parish.

Sorry about rattling on too long.....

Mary in Oregon

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