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From: "Steinbach, Terese" <>
Subject: RE: [PDP] Plantagents
Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 14:10:07 -0500


Tried to access your recommended website but could not get in. Is there
another way to get to this site?

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Georgiana Webster [SMTP:]
> Sent:Wednesday, November 07, 2001 2:01 PM
> To:
> Subject:[PDP] Plantagents
>
> I am trying to establish the actual mother of Joyce la Zouche de Mortimer.
> Her father William la Zouche de Mortimer, married twice. First to Alice
> de Toeni, which a lot of researchers give as the above Joyce's mother.
> However, according to the dates I can trace down, she was born after Alice
> died, and after William married Eleanor de Clare. This, of course, would
> make Eleanor her mother.
>
> Eleanor de Clare was the d/o Gilbert de Clare (the Red) and Joan of
> Accra. Joan was the d/o of Edward 1 (Plantagent) and Eleanor of Castile.
>
> Going back to Joyce la Zouche de Mortimer, she married John de Botetourte,
> the grandson of John de Botetourte - Lord Washingham, thought to be the
> illegitimate son of Edward 1.
>
> These are my lines, but I need to pin down accurately Joyce la Zouche de
> Mortimer's mother.
>
> I presume most of you have seen Brian Tompsett, of Hull, U.K.'s site
> www.deshull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/gedcom.html It is not complete, but
> very helpful.
>
> Georgiana
>
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