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From: The Williams Family <>
Subject: [PDP] Re: Plantagenet - a "sort of" surname
Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 08:04:47 -0700
References: <200207180301.g6I31psA020817@lists2.rootsweb.com>


Sir,

>
>
> Discussion of my motives seems impertinent. I suggest that you
> reflect on the aims of the Akademie MIDI instead.

An "impertinent" person might suggest that it is your motives that are important here, not
those of Akademie MIDI.

>
>
> Now, it seems that the Plant web site is also being misrepresented
> such that I need to respond to that too.
>
> The references to Plantagenet on that web-site are two-fold in
> nature.
>
> (1) There may have been an influence of Plantagenet on the MEANING of
> Plant-like names. As my original message to this listserve indicated,
> the evidence for the Plantagenet name is scant but at least the
> concept must have survived for 3 centuries from Geoffrey of Anjou to
> Richard duke of York and, in particular, there is evidence that the
> name Plauntegenet was being used in 1266.

There is absolutely no reason why your "Plant-like" names should have been influnced in
meaning or any other form by Plantagenet. That is like saying that someone whose surname is
Kent would be "influenced" by the surname of President Kennedy. It's all pure moonshine!

>
>
> (2) More recently I have instigated a DNA testing programme for
> Plant-like names which is open to any such name. There are many
> Plant-like names though it would seem both churlish and unscientific
> if the Plantagenet name were to be omitted. As stated on the web
> site, there has been a report in The Times newspaper concerning plans
> for DNA testing of Plantagenet remains. Perhaps one of the more
> interesting possible outcomes of the testing programme would be if
> the Plantagenet name could be related to the historically important
> name Plantard but then, as a scientist, I wish to retain an open mind
> at this stage.

Until you can prove something with the nonexistent (so far) Plantagenet DNA this has
absolutely nothing to do with the point of the list.

>
>
> I hope that there will not now be willful misrepresentation of this
> further message as many of the comments on this listserve seem to me
> to have become rather tiresome.

There never was any willful misrepresentation of your messages or website. What has been
said was said because of the tenuous links and ridiculous proof you have been offering up
regarding the surname of Plantagenet and it's "influence" on "Plant-like" names.

>
>
> With best wishes for your rather different objectives involving
> genealogical trees,
>

I quite agree that we have different objectives. My objectives are those conducive to the
building of a genealogical pedigree based upon reliable, contemporary sources.

Sincerely,
Kelsey J. Williams

>
> With best regards,
>
> John
> --
> .
> . John S Plant PhD MBCS MIDI KLUO
> . Chartered Information Systems Practitioner
> .......unifying cerebral creativity with intelligent algorithms
> Tel.(01782)58 3064 : :: Computing Services,
> Fax.(01782)58 3636 : ::: Keele Information Services.
> .....Dr.J.S.Plant,Computing Services,Keele University,Staffordshire,ST5 5BG.
>
> ______________________________

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