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From: "Mary Jo Kuskie" <>
Subject: Re: [POLAND] Female Immigrants Traveling Alone
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:32:55 -0500
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Bob,

I did look on the next page as you suggested, and I did see the three names.
I guess, if that is my grandmother, that she could have likely been with
others from the village. I know we always heard my grandfather took her to
Bremen to embark on her journey to America. Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Postula" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [POLAND] Female Immigrants Traveling Alone


> Mary Jo:
>
> When you look at page 16 line 7 for the 11 year old, you will find that
the
> entry was lined out, which would indicate that the entry is an error and
> invalid.
>
> When you look at page 21 line 19 for the 13 year old, no one on the page
is
> from Lipnica.
>
> However, if you go to the next page, the first three individuals are from
> Lipnica and most likely were travel companions of Maryanna PIOTROWSKA.
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Jo Kuskie" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [POLAND] Female Immigrants Traveling Alone
>
>
> > Debbie,
> >
> > My grandmother always told the story of coming the America by herself at
> age
> > 14 to come live with an Aunt. I have found, who I believe is my
> grandmother
> > in a ship manifest for the Neckar, which arrived from Bremen Germany on
> > 4/30/03. There is a Maryanna Piotrowska (on her naturalization she
> indicated
> > Marya), which arrived on the Neckar from Bremen Germany on 4/30/03, who
> > indicated her home as Lipnica, Poland. She is actually listed twice on
the
> > manifest, once as age 11, and a second time as age 13). All matches
> with
> > information on her Petition for Naturalization, other than the fact that
> she
> > indicated that she arrived on 5/1 on the Dergross Kurfurst (there was no
> > ship by that name arriving on that date). I cannot find that she was
> > traveling with anyone, and the markings look like she was detained.
> However,
> > I can't find her name on the list at the end of the manifest for
detained
> > individuals. Therefore, I am to believe that she was travelling alone,
as
> > she always stated to us.
> >
> > Question: Although there is no Dergross Kurfurst that arrived on 5/1,
I
> > wanted to try and access all other manifests for this ship on dates
close
> to
> > that date. I have tried to find a way to access manifests for other
ships
> > that arrived on other dates, but haven't seemed to find a way.Is there a
> way
> > to do this on line if I have the ship name and date of arrival of the
> ship?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Debbie" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 12:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [POLAND] Female Immigrants Traveling Alone
> >
> >
> > > Tom,
> > > Yes, there was a minimum age for traveling alone (16) and it was
common
> > > for women especially to lie about their ages. It was also not uncommon
> > > for them to travel alone or with a child. I think women were made of
> > > stronger mettle back then.
> > > Debbie
> > >
> > > Tom Malek wrote:
> > > >
> > > > My grandmother arrived in New York in 1905. The ship's manifest
states
> > that
> > > > she was 19 years of age when, in fact, she was only 16 years old.
She
> > does
> > > > not appear to have been traveling with relatives as she was the only
> one
> > > > with her surname.
> > > > Was there an age restriction for immigrants traveling alone?
> > > > Tom Malek
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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