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From: "Mary Jo Kuskie" <>
Subject: Re: [POLAND] Female Immigrants Traveling Alone
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:07:52 -0500
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Thanks so much for the advise. I will follow through on the baptisimal
records to try and cross-check the infor. I do have my grandfather's
petition and declaration from 1937, on which my grandmother's info is listed
with her place of birth as the same village. However, I noticed on my
grandfather's declaration, that he actually had tried in 1918 to petition
for naturalization, and it was denied due to "claim of exemption from the
draft". When I ordered copies of his declaration, they just sent me the one
from 1937. Do you think if I tried ordering again and specified 1918 that I
could get that year? Maybe the information would be more reliable since it
was only 15 or so years since they immigrated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Debbie" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [POLAND] Female Immigrants Traveling Alone


> Mary Jo,
> After so many years it is likely that your grandmother forgot the name
> of the ship and/or the date and used "someone else's."
>
> Sayerville, NJ is still a very heavily populated Polish community.
>
> Was her Petition and Declaration filed under her name? If so, you might
> look for another one filed under her husband's name prior to 1940. Prior
> to the 1930s, a husband would file for citizenship with his wife on the
> same forms. Very often he would die and as a precaution, the wife would
> then file for citizenship just to make sure everything was kosher, so to
> speak.
>
> And, look for the children's baptismal records. See what's listed there
> as the parents' places of birth.
> Debbie
>
> Mary Jo Kuskie wrote:
> > Debbie,
> > She stated Dergross Kurfurst on the Petition for Naturalization, which
> > wasn't dated until 1940 (several years after her arrival). I know there
are
> > two different ships, Grosser Kurfurst and Kaiser Wilhem Der Grosse, but
no
> > Dergross Kurfurst as she stated. Also neither arrived on 5/1, so she
> > probably had the date wrong after so many years. Would it be possible
that
> > she could have had the ship wrong? There is a lot of difference between
the
> > Neckar and either of the other names. But she did state 1903 as her
arrival,
> > which would come close to her stating she was 14 upon arrival (she said
her
> > year of birth was 1888). She did list her place of birth as Lipnica on
her
> > Petition for Naturalization, and always told family members she came to
live
> > with an aunt. The 13 year old I found on the mainfest from Nekar was
coming
> > to meet an Uncle that lived in Sayreville, N.J. My grandmother ended up
> > working in a factory in Helmetta, N.J., which is not far from
Sayreville.
> > Therefore, I still think that could be her, but will do some more
searching
> > as you suggested on the Morse sight and the index card through NARA
also.
> >
> > One last question for anyone that can help. The 13 year old I have found
on
> > the Neckar mainfest listed Lipnica as a place of birth, but Murowana (or
> > something) like that was written on the mainfest after Lipnica. Is this
a
> > region of Poland? Does anyone know what that refers to in relation to
> > Lipnica?
> >
> > Thanks so much for your help.
>
>
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