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From: Geri Cassidy <>
Subject: [PORTUGAL-L] Re: LUCENA...before 1800
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 20:15:36 -0600


Hi Luiz Filipe,

Thank you for the help you've given me. I have been
through the LDS site. All of the people in England
spelled LUCENA are relatives. They are the children
and grandchildren of John Charles LUCENA. The LUCINI
name is completely different...must be Italian.

I once had looked at ancestry.com and saw all those
names but thought it was like looking for a needle in
a haystack. Also I need to educate myself on how
people are named in Portugal, as the names are very
long and sometimes LUCENA is in the middle, and others
it is at the end. I was guessing that de LUCENA meant
from LUCENA which I thought was in Spain. Surnames
are matrilineal, patrilineal, and also locality? Is
patrilineal always at the end?

There are some London Trade Directories which show
the merchants CRAWFORD and LUCENA back into the 1780s,
but before that I have nothing.

The documents in the Public Record Office in London
show in the 1830s that lands were being confiscated
from John Charles LUCENA (Alien). The British govern-
ment was investigating people who were not citizens
by birth and I think this was the time of the Spanish
Civil War. There might have been problems with him
importing/exporting.

I purchased a book on the History of Portugal. But I
should have checked amazon.com first...it only got
2 stars out of 5.

I'm trying to learn as much as I can.

Kind regards,
Geri Cassidy
Calgary, Canada

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