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Subject: Re: [POSEN-L] Schoenlanke etc
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:33:31 -0500 (EST)
Dear Marc,
Dear Reuben,
Like Reuben I have also read your remarks with intrest. One thing I
can add to the comments you made about surnames is that I have looked
at some exerpts from the 1773 Hufenclassification and there, too, many
Poles (and Jews) were listed without a last name. This occurred mostly
an the estates. At first I thought that that was simply a case of the
nobleman not deigning to spend his time reciting them to the census
taker. However, on these same estates, the Schmidt or Mueller, when
German, would be listed with a surname.
One other comment that your discussion of the Ponto surname reminded
me of. I think it might be difficult for some German-Americans to
understand how their ancestor, while as German as Apfelstrudel, could
have a slavic name.
One remark you made that really helped me make sense of alot of
things I had read was when you mentioned that the Thirty Year War
marked the end of the wave of 16th Century migration to the
Netzedistrict. Could you please elaborate on this? Please?
Another important date that is cited in the books I've read is that
the next wave of settlement began about 1720 at the end of the Swedish
Wars. We know that the Netzedistrict was very hard hit during the
Swedish Wars. What happend (besides the destruction of villages)
between 1640 and 1720? Was there much migration?
In addition to what Reuben wrote about German farmers from the
Neumark and Pommern pushing out from the Neumark and Pommern
c1750-c1780: how likely is it that many of these were the sons of
colonists who had only first come to the Oderbruch and/or Warthebruch a
few years earlier? I saw that there were several books in the Martin Opitz
Catalogue that might address this, but those books are hard to come by
in the US.
Regards, Joel Streic
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