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Subject: Re: POWYS-D Digest V99 #261
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 01:28:29 -0400


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> POWYS-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 261
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> Today's Topics:
> #1 Re: 1861 & 1871 LOOKUP REQUEST PLE ["carole lubbers" <carolelubbers@em]
> #2 Re: 1861 & 1871 LOOKUP REQUEST PLE ["Hugh Gibbon" <.]
> #3 Powell/Edmonds Family ["ggeske" <>]
> #4 WATKINS [S Crawford <]
> #5 JAMES [S Crawford <]
> #6 splotches - help with names ["Cindy Hills" <>]
> #7 Off again! []
> #8 Re: splotches - help with names ["Betty A. Pace" <>]
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> Subject: Re: 1861 & 1871 LOOKUP REQUEST PLEASE
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 16:43:03 -0400
> From: "carole lubbers" <>
> To:
>
> You can get the street indexes thru LDS. I just saw them today on the Wales
> microfiche, locality set. Carole in Georgia
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Date: Thursday, July 01, 1999 9:54 PM
> Subject: Re: 1861 & 1871 LOOKUP REQUEST PLEASE
>
> >Brenda,
> >
> >No one took the bait because what you ask is a BIG favour.
> >
> >All the census records, other than the 1851 and 1881, are indexed by street
> >only. So one needs a street to be able to determine which film to order
> from
> >the LDS Fam History Center. I believe the Welsh census are in the National
> >Library of Wales, but you would need to know an address to access the
> >information and visit.
> >
> >Georgina in Orange, CA.
> >
>
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> Subject: Re: 1861 & 1871 LOOKUP REQUEST PLEASE
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 22:42:57 +0100
> From: "Hugh Gibbon" <>
> To:
>
> Just a thought. You had a message saying you would need a street name in
> order to access info on these Censi/Censuses. But the place you're talking
> about, Tynygongol near Benllech, Anglesey is strictly a one-horse town; last
> time I went through it there were four houses, a garage and a church and
> most of those houses were post 1900. I noticed there isn't a single street
> name on the 1801 Amlwch Census. When a 'large' town has a population of
> 1500 names for streets seems irrelevant.
> When I lived in Anglesey 50 years ago directions were always given in terms
> of pubs and chapels as these buildings tended to outnumber ordinary houses.
> Cheers
> Hugh Gibbon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brenda Jones <>
> To: <>
> Date: 02 July 1999 00:01
> Subject: 1861 & 1871 LOOKUP REQUEST PLEASE
>
> >Hello everyone,
> >
> >I am repeating my request for someone to do a lookup in the above census
> >years. I asked a couple of months ago, but no-one took the bait! So, here I
> >go again.
> >
> >I am researching the ROWLANDS family of a house or farm named "Maesllydan"
> >in or near Tynygongl, Benllech, Anglesey. I have them on the 1841/1851 &
> >1881/1891 census for LLANDDYFNAN in Anglesey and to complete the census
> >records I need to find out who was residing at "Maesllydan" in 1861/71.
> >
> >Two of the Rowlands sons - Edward and William - came to Liverpool in the
> >early 1860s and as they were joiners they started a building contractors
> >business. They built many houses and a few Churches in Liverpool and on the
> >Wirral. They were my late husbands' maternal side of the family and I would
> >dearly love to complete this family line.
> >
> >Hoping someone is willing to help.
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >
> >Brenda Jones in Liverpool UK.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Subject: Powell/Edmonds Family
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 18:45:04 -0500
> From: "ggeske" <>
> To: "POWYS-L" <>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have been very lucky lately and have finally traced my Powell ancestors to
> Beaufort, Llangattock. John Powell (son of John, collier in Beaufort)
> married Ann Edmonds (dau of David, innkeeper in Beaufort and wife Sarah) in
> Feb 1856 at the Carmel Chapel. David Edmonds shown as being born in Bedwelty
> ca 1790. Edmonds family found in 1851 Census living in Beaufort and looks
> like family may have been there since around 1834. It would be great to
> connect with anyone researching
> families or knowledgeable about the area. Meanwhile, I'm still on a roll.
> Georgia
>
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> Subject: WATKINS
> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 19:54:35 -0500
> From: S Crawford <>
> To:
>
> I'm searching for any information on this family:
>
> Descendants of William Watkins
>
> 1 William Watkins b: Abt 1781 in Llanvillo, County of Brecon, Wales d: Bef 1861 in Brecon.
>
> Fact 1: 1841 Lived Tylcrwn Farm
> Fact 2: 1851 Lived Tylcrwn Farm
> Fact 3: 1861 Deceased - wife listed as widow
>
> ..... +Ester ? b: Abt 1781 m: in Abt 1801 ? d: 1841-1851
>
> ..... 2 Ester Watkins b: Abt 1805 Fact 1: Lived Tylecrwn Farm in 1861
> ......... +??? VAUGHAN (?)
>
> ..... 2 William Watkins b: Abt 1807
>
> ..... 2 Daniel Watkins b: Abt 1812 in Llanvillo, County of Brecon, Wales d: March 05, 1883 in Tregunter, Talgarth, County of Brecon, Wales
> ......... +Xantippe/Xanthe POWELL b: Abt 1822 in Trawscoed, County of Brecon, Wales m: October 19, 1844 in Llanvillo, County of Brecon, Wales d:
> November 05, 1902 in Bower Villa, Talgarth, County of Brecon, Wales
>
> ............ 3 Jane Watkins b: October 19, 1844 in Garngaled, Llanfallo,
>
> ............ 3 William Henry Watkins b: November 17, 1847 in Llandevalle, County of Brecon, Wales
> Fact 1: 1851 Caerperdrain Farm (age 3).
> Fact 2: 1861 Lived Tylcrwn Farm (age 13).
> Fact 3: 1871 Not listed w/family on census returns at Tregunter Farm. (age 23).
> Fact 4: November 30, 1880 Married Charlotte JAMES in the Parish Church of Llannely.
> Fact 5: April 03, 1881 Tregunter Farm with his father (married - age 33). Charlotte was not listed.
> Fact 6: 1891 Not listed with parents at Tregunter Farm.
>
> ................ +Charlotte JAMES b: November 24, 1845 in Rhyd Lidon, County of Brecon, Wales, U.K. m: November 30, 1880 in Llanelly, County of
> Brecon, Wales d: June 21, 1910 in Henry County, Missouri
>
> ................... 4 Margaret Jane Watkins b: January 27, 1882 in Rassau, County of Brecon, Wales d: April 03, 1980 in Springfield, Greene County,
> Missouri [my grandmother]
>
> ............ 3 Daniel Watkins b: May 12, 1849 in Upper Caeperdrain, Llanelly, Brecon, Wales
>
> ............ 3 Esther Watkins b: Abt 1851
>
> ............ 3 Henry Watkins b: Abt 1853
>
> ............ 3 Thomas Watkins b: Abt 1855
>
> ............ 3 Margaret Watkins b: Abt 1856
>
> ............ 3 Mary Ann Watkins b: Abt 1858
>
> ............ 3 Elizabeth Watkins b: Abt 1863
>
> ............ 3 Xantippe Watkins b: Abt 1868
>
> ..... 2 Margaret Watkins b: Abt 1816
>
> ..... 2 Jane Watkins b: Abt 1820
>
> ..... 2 Henry Watkins b: Abt 1821
>
> If you see a connection with your line, please contact me.
>
> Suzanne Graves Crawford
>
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>
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> Subject: JAMES
> Date: Sat, 03 Jul 1999 20:13:54 -0500
> From: S Crawford <>
> To:
>
> Searching for any information on this family:
>
> Parents-siblings-descendants of:
>
> 1 William JAMES b: Abt 1803 in Cusop, Herefordshire, England, U.K. d: 1851-1861
> Fact 2: 1841 Rhyd Lidon, County of Brecon
> Fact 3: 1845 Rhyd Lidon, County of Brecon
> Fact 4: 1851 Upper Tylcrwn Farm (Tylecron), County of Brecon
>
> .... Married +Margaret Jones b: Abt 1805 in Llandefalle, County of Brecon, Wales, U.K. d: September 11, 1889 in Penygraig Farm, Llannelly, County of
> Brecon, Wales, U.K.
> Fact 3: 1861 Upper Tylcrwn Farm
> Fact 4: 1881 Rassau, Beaufort
> Children:
> ..... 2 Jane James b: Abt 1838 in Llanfillo, County of Brecon, Wales, U.K. d: 1851-1861 Fact 1: 1841 Census records - Rhyd Lidon- Llanvillo
>
> ..... 2 William James b: December 23, 1841 d: November 30, 1928 in Henry County, Missouri Fact 1: 1841 Census records - Rhyd Lidon, Llanvillo
>
> ..... 2 Margaret James b: Abt 1843 in Llanfillo, County of Brecon, Wales, U.K.
> ......... +Edward DAVIS (?)
>
> ..... 2 Charlotte James b: November 24, 1845 in Rhyd Lidon, County of Brecon, Wales, U.K. d: June 21, 1910 in Henry County, Missouri
> ........Married +William Henry Watkins b: November 17, 1847 in Llandevalle, County of Brecon, Wales m: November 30, 1880 in Llanelly, County of
> Brecon, Wales
>
> ............ 3 Margaret Jane Watkins b: January 27, 1882 in Rassau, County of Brecon, Wales d: April 03, 1980 in Springfield, Greene County,
> Missouri
>
> .... 2 Thomas James b: January 14, 1851 in Llanfillo, County of Brecon, Wales, U.K. d: 1851-1861
>
> Searching for these names in Breconshire:
> WATKINS-POWELL-JAMES-JONES-POWELL-PROSSER-STARK
>
> If you see any connection, please contact me.
>
> Suzanne Graves Crawford
>
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> Subject: splotches - help with names
> Date: 3 Jul 99 18:49:01 -0700
> From: "Cindy Hills" <>
> To:
>
> I have been looking at some old records (1714-1724) from Vaynor, Brecon,
> and have found a few names partially damaged with ink or water splotches.
> I was wondering if those of you who are more familiar with welsh names
> might be able to recognize them? The gentleman who recorded this
> information was also a very poor speller. I have found some very common
> names spelled in some very strange ways. Do any of the names below look
> familiar?
>
> Given names:
> Maudlem (female)
> Mallt (male)
> _ _r_ _ lin (male)
> _iagdt_ _ _ (this was a burial record, sex unknown)
>
> Surnames:
> BOABAM, BOAZAM, or possibly BOAKAM?
>
> Are any of the following surnames:
> PRI
> EHO
> LAWES
> PRILLYN
>
> Thanks,
> Cindy Hills
>
>
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> Subject: Off again!
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 05:03:18 EDT
> From:
> To:
>
> Hi listers,
>
> Am off to England again, and will be in Wales with my pathfinder map this
> time!!
>
> Will see you in two weeks.
>
> Georgina in Orange Ca.
>
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> Subject: Re: splotches - help with names
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 06:46:21 +0000
> From: "Betty A. Pace" <>
> To:
>
> I noticed on the 1801 Amlwch on-line census the given/first name INO. I
> thought it might have been a typing error or an abbreviation, but perhaps
> it is a valid first name in 1801.
>
> Betty Pace
>
> On 3 Jul 99 18:49:01 -0700 "Cindy Hills" <> writes:
> . Do any of the names below
> >look
> >familiar?
>
> >Surnames:
> >
> > Are any of the following surnames:
> > PRI
> > EHO
> > LAWES
> > PRILLYN
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Cindy Hills
> >
> >
> >
>
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