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From: "john cullwick" <>
Subject: Re: John Bryan 1770-1856
Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 15:02:49 -0000


Hi Gerwyn

I would ask Dr Nockles, the Methodist historian at the John Ryland Library
in Manchester to look up his obituary in the Methodist Recorder, assuming he
was a Wesleyan.

There were several strands of Methodism - three of which he could have
ministered within. One is the Calvinist Methodist connection. Normally
this would be Welsh speaking, though there was the Countess of Huntingdon
chapels in England. Secondly, there would be the Primitive Methodists -
founded in the Potteries by Hugh Bourne (1772-1852) and William Clowes
(1780-1854). Most of the Prims were part-time ministers and had to earn
their living at that time. The third one is the Wesleyan Connection, which
is probably the one you are concerned with. There were several others (in
case someone notices I have left out the New Connexion and other strands)
but these 3 were the main ones in that area.

If you have no luck with Dr Nockles, it may be that he was a Welsh Calvinist
Methodist Minister. Then I think the National Library in Wales might be a
better option to obtain the biography (and it will be in Welsh).

Best wishes

John Cullwick


>I am trying to trace my family tree beyond the above. I believe that he was
>born in Llanfyllin in 1770 to a John Bryan?. I have no history beyond that
>date. He became the Rev. John Bryan and was a Minister within the methodist
>church. Does anyone know where I should research further?

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