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From: "Marion Wilkinson" <>
Subject: Re: [POWYS] GAMES
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 10:26:47 +1000
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Hi Catherine

Re: Sir David GAM

Lloyd Lewis recently referred to the CD book 'A History of the County
of Brecknock'. I have the CD book and find that Sir David was actually
Dafydd Llewelyn but was given the name of Gam because he had a squint!
Gam was the Welsh word for that affliction. There is quite a lot of
information about the family and a large family tree.

Regards
Marion in AUS
I use Archive CD Books for my research
http://www.archivecdbooks.org/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine and Maurice" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:51 AM
Subject: Re: [POWYS] GAMES


> Hello Denis - would you mind letting me know the contact for the
Gornall
> person you contacted in Hampshire? I am having the first Gornall
reunion
> next year here in BC and I would like to invite as many Gornalls as
> possible. There was a well known cricketer by the name of Gornall
from
> Hampshire. Perhaps this man is a descendant.
>
> Re the name Games or Gam - Ernest Hughes-Games of mention in my
earlier
> message on here, advised me last night that he is descended from
Elizabeth
> Games who in 1823 married Joshua Jones in Radnor. She inherited both
the
> Games and the Hughes estates and requested that her son change his
name from
> Jones to Hughes-Games to continue on the family names. That son was
the
> great grandfather of Ernest Hughes-Games. He is directly descended
from Sir.
> David Gam. Ernest's father inherited both estates in Wales. Around
the time
> of WW1 he was able to sell both estates due to some clause in the
> inheritance act that allowed him to do so because he was the
youngest son,
> not the eldest son. Evidently the estates and their farms produced a
lot of
> food for the people of England and the soldiers during WW1.
>
> Ernest has two sons, neither of whom appear to be interested in
their
> heritage. What a shame!!!
>
> I look forward to hearing back from you re the Hampshire Gornall.
Thank
> again.
>
> Catherine Proctor, 908 Claymore Road, Qualicum Beach, BC. Canada,
V9K 1L9
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Member #4085 - the Guild of One Name Studies
> RESEARCHING THE NAME OF GORNALL
>
> www.members.shaw.ca/gornallonenamestudy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 1:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [POWYS] GAMES
>
>
> > Hi Jenny and Catherine,
> >
> > The name Games is listed in the book " The Surnames of Wales" by
John and
> > Sheila Rowlands of PO Box 37, Aberystwyth, Wales. It does come
from GAM,
> of
> > Dafydd Gam, a mutation of "cam" meaning crooked or bent, or with a
squint
> some say.
> > There is also the name Gameson, and I know one man here of that
name, from
> > Carmarthen in Wales.
> >
> > The name Gornall was also in Mid Wales at Berriew, and in
Shropshire, and
> I
> > referred to it recently on this List re a Gornall man I know in
Hampshire.
> I
> > have just found some of my 1845 Montgomeryshire, Wales,
Cleaton/Clayton
> family
> > in Ohio and Wisconsin.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Dennis Cleaton
> > Rads, Powys
> >
> >
>
>


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