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From: Anthony Francis <>
Subject: Re: [POWYS]re- Ashtons of Geseilfa, etc.
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:36:18 -0700
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Hi Barrie, Dennis, Lizzie & friends,
I've been away travelling with visitors for a couple of weeks since about
the time the Powys list disappeared into digital dust.
I see Barrie is looking for a couple of Trefeglwys neighbourhood people who
had also been travelling:
in 1861:
ASHTON THOMAS HD M 44 LINEN & WOOLLEN DRAPER MGY TREFEGLWYS (c1817)
in 1851:
Edward Ashton h m 45 marine store Llanddynawr?, MGY
(b.about 1806)

I took a quick search in my family tree index for Thomas ASHTONs and only
found five, none of them born around 1817.
There was Thomas b.1797 to John Ashton 1743-1834 & Elizabeth Savage
1745-1818. This one might have married a Jane Owen by banns Trefeglwys
18Nov1818 - Bill Barker CD.
There was Thomas b.c.1798 to Valentine Ashton 1773-1845 & Martha Jerman
1777-1855. This one married Martha Lewis of Aberhafesp? in Llanfair
Caereinion 12Nov1826?
Unfortunately I don't have any children listed for them.
I have 20 Edward Ashtons indexed but the most promising is:
Edward b. July 1806 to Valentine Ashton 1773-1845 & Martha Jerman 1777-1855
who married Elizabeth Jones about 1827? And farmed Maesyblawd farm,
Trefeglwys according to genealogist Vera Jones, of Oakley Park - near
Llandinam. I think this might be the person to ask.
Interestingly, this Edward's eighth child was Thomas but born too late to
be yours.
I know there were some Ashtons from Llandinam but I'll have to hunt &
peck because I can't search the tree by location.
Cheers, Tony in White Rock, BC.

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>Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 08:47:54 +0100
>From: bj <>
>Subject: [POWYS]re- Ashtons of Geseilfa, etc.
>X-Mailing-List: <> archive/latest/13548
>Hi Dennis and list,
>This probably ties in with the Ashton's on the family tree that I
>received from an Ashton family researcher at the Powys FHS lunch in
>January 2003 and confirmed with Anthony Francis. Thanks for the
>reference to the Rowlands book 2.
>
>I believe I have cracked the Llanddynawr reference which John Ball
>guessed may be Llanbrynmair.
>
>Knowing Edward Ashton was in Carmarthenshire in 1851 my wife decided to
>try a few lateral ideas. She ended up putting in 'Ashdown' into the 1881
>search and came up with:-
>
> Dwelling: Caedu
> Census Place: Llansadwrn, Carmarthen, Wales
> Source: FHL Film 1342297 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5381 Folio
>31 Page 2
>
> Marr Age Sex Birthplace
>
>Edward ASHDOWN M 74 M Llandinum, Montgomery, Wales
> Rel: Head
> Occ: Basket Maker
>Elizabeth ASHDOWN M 74 F Cwmystwyth, Cardigan, Wales
> Rel: Wife
> Occ: Basket Maker Wife
>Mary ASHDOWN 27 F Llansadwrn, Carmarthen, Wales
> Rel: Daur
> Occ: Quiltmaker (Cot Seamstress)
>
>Bingo! They were from Llandinam. They were in the same place 'Caedu'
>since 1851. From Hawker in 1841 to 'marine shop' in 1851 and then a
>'cottage' industry as basket makers and quilt seamstress!
>
>Checked out family tree for an Ashton living locally. This man sells
>carpets today. His great grandfather on the 1901 census (Charles Ashton)
>is an..... oil cloth dealer:)) His son was a traveller and the gentleman
>says he was a showman travelling around the country. He has a photo of
>him as well.
>
>The original Charles Ashton (b 1846) was from Castleford, Yorkshire and
>from 1881 were in Boston, Lincolnshire.
>
>best regards
>
>Barrie Jones, Gwent


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