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From: "Jack Gardner" <>
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Ashton - deafness
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:51:48 -0000
References: <yGJSJXADZwKCFwEW@reverendvox.demon.co.uk>


Hello bj

Yes - I'm still out here, looking and contributing when possible.

I can confirm that according to the 1881 census, my Charles Ashton,
(15/2/1824) an ostler from Trefeglwys, aged 58 was married to Anne, nee
Humphreys, 54, from Llanidloes. (Married 25/12/1848, Llanbrynmair). They
lived at Lower Farm in the parish of Tredegar with their daughters:- Anne
28 Dressmaker b. Tredegar
Hannah 25 Chaffcutter " (Deaf)
Mary Jane 21 Farm Servant "
Elizabeth 18 Scholar "
Sarah 15 " "
Thomas 4 Bedwellty

Although Thomas was listed as son of Charles & Anne, he was actually the son
of Anne the dressmaker and my grandfather.

I have been unable to find out what happened to my g grandmother or any of
her sisters - still searching for clues.

Best wishes

Margaret

----- Original Message -----
From: "bj" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: [POWYS] Ashton - deafness


> Hello Anthony,
>
> I remember discussing deafness in Ashton families with you a year or so
> ago. Margaret Brownrigg had evidence of deafness in her Ashton ancestry,
> who originally came from Trefeglwys and Llanidloes and ended up in Gwent
> circa 1850 and probably earlier.
>
> 1851 census at Tredegar, Mon
>
> H0107-2448-f228
>
> 36, Peter street, Tredegar
>
> Charles Ashton h m 27 lab Trefeglwys, MGY
> Anne Ashton w m 25 Llanidloes, MGY
>
> also found this:-
>
> H0107-2448-67-9
>
> 20, Queens Square, Tredegar
>
> Ashton Thomas h m 57 grocers porter Trefeglwys, MGY
> Ashton Roger s u 30 coacher ,, ,,
> Ashton John s u 23 coacher ,, ,,
> Ashton David s u 21 dragger ,, ,,
> Ashton Ann d u 26 ,, ,,
>
> Not sure if these families are related, but, it may be that Thomas is
> Charles father? Will have to check MGY 1841 census, although I only have
> the scanned images version.
>
> I haven't heard from Margaret and I am not sure that she is subscribed
> to this list a the moment. I had a feeling that Anne, Charles wife was a
> Humphreys but without Margaret's confirmation not sure. There are
> Humphreys in Tredegar area in 1851 from Trefeglwys and Llanidloes.
>
> These Ashton families are not in my line as Edward Ashton, born in
> Llandinam, MGY 1807 was married in Aberystwyth in 1833 and the family
> worked their way over to Carmarthenshire (Llansadwrn) and the family
> branched to various parts of South Glamorgan, Swansea and Bridgend and
> mine to Dowlais.
>
> best regards
>
> Barrie Jones, Gwent
>
> In message Anthony Francis <> writes:-
>
> >Hi Alison,
> > Regarding the disabled family of Ashton's, I feel sure that there was
> >much medical interest at the time regarding the genetics problems caused
by
> >a marriage between first cousins and wonder if the two Ashton doctors,
> >Dr.Joseph of Carno and Dr.John Caradoc of Machynlleth, did any studies in
> >their day. If you feel the need to study the genetics further, you might
> >like to look into the ancestry of Dr. Joseph Ashton. I understand that
many
> >families had marriages between first cousins in those days but only a few
> >suffered a genetic catastrophe.
> > I did wonder if the pollution in their drinking water might have
affected
> >their nervous systems, as has been discovered in the last 40 years, but
> >then it seems that few, if any, of their neighbours were similarly
> >affected. It might have been a combination of these factors that hit the
> >family - perhaps a weakening of their immune systems by pollution at the
> >same time as some particularly nasty virus was visiting the area. This
sort
> >of thing might happen to anyone, as I have discovered.
> >Cheers, Tony
>
> ______________________________


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