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From: "Jerman Project" <>
Subject: Re: [POWYS] Trefeglwys: one parish study - Jerman
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:54:20 -0000
I also have the Chapman article - and it is precisely because I don't
believe the Jermans to have come originally from England that they are not
mentioned in his roll-call of names from Derbyshire et al. An earlier
consideration - Roberts and Owen ("The Story of Montgomeryshire", Cardiff,
1916) - of which I have a copy in case anyone is interested - states that
maybe the Jerman name came with a group of migrants to the area, the likely
origin being Flemish. They consider that the "Flemish element" in
Montgomeryshire is represented by "Hamers, Woosnams, Jarmans, Ingrams,
Bebbs, Ryders, Jarretts &c."
They try to explain in some way why these Flemings arrived in mid-Wales:
"There is evidence of the code of laws compiled by Howell Dda that the
making of woollen fabrics was a well-developed industry in Wales as far back
as a thousand years ago (i.e. c.1000) In the Middle Ages, the industry was
further developed after the coming of the Flemings. In 1331, Edward III
introduced seventy families of Flemish weavers into this country, and during
the succeeding hundred years several others reached our shores. Many of them
settled in Wales and their coming resulted in a great improvement in the
making of cloths...Thus Llanbrynmair, where dwelt several descendants of
Flemish weavers, bcame a flourishing centre of the woollen industry"
Does anyone else have any thoughts on these theories (as surely they are!)?
I lived for a few years in the northern (Flemish) part of Belgium and felt
very much at home there - a coincidence or was I on home territory!?