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From: "Shirley Erickson" <>
Subject: Re: PRA-D Digest V03 #30
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 12:14:56 -0600
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The Johnson and Smith names both connect to group 11 in early times. My
Abel's (born abt. 1750; died 1819 AL). Here is a bit of the lineage from
the female side of the tree. Most or all of the children of group 11 Abel
were supposedly and probably born in North Carolina.

daughter: Nancy married Henry Johnson on May 12, 1794 in Oglethorpe County,
GA. The only child I know of is Thomas W. Johnson and that is where this
branch starts and ends.

daughter: Sarah "Sally" married Joseph A. Wilson on July 4 or 5, 1798 in
Oglethorpe County, GA. The children and lives of this branch are very well
documented but parents for Joseph are not proven.

daughter: Elizabeth "Betsey" married Henry Ramsey abt. 1806 and Adam Poole
abt. 1809 in GA. Henry died bef. Mar 1815 leaving one child. Betsey and
Adam both died before 1819 leaving several children some of whom are well
documented. The Pooles are buried in Tuscaloosa AL.

daughter: Mary E. "Polly" married Eleazer Lovejoy.

daughter: Rebekah married John Smith on Sept. 23, 1812 in Jasper County,
GA. She is buried in Williamson Cemetery in Northport, Tuscaloosa County,
Alabama.

sons: Abel, Jr.; Isaac; Samuel; William; John L. all had children but
surnames for wives are unknown. William is the most confusing of the two
and one where I believe many mistakes have occurred. His name was input as
William Thomas but I am no longer convinced of this. There is still much
more work to do.

As always, let me know what you think.

Shirley

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alice Sanders" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: PRA-D Digest V03 #30


> Hi Shirley
> Your comment about a connection to the Johnson family made me take notice.
The Smith family that is connected to our Group 28 Penningtons had a Johnson
connection in that same Yadkin/New River area of North Carolina. A William
and Mary [Parks] Johnson and their daughter, Wynnea [Winnie]. Another
collateral family connected to them was Fyffe. Do any of these names sound
familiar?
> Alice Sanders
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pat Trocano
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 6:21 AM
> Subject: Re: PRA-D Digest V03 #30
>
>
> Hi Shirley,
>
> Hope you are OK. Your email regarding peripheral families reminded me
that I
> need to find out something, and I chose you! ha!! One of my peripheral
> families is the name Bowles/ Bowling, etc..
>
> I need some data from them--if they have it-------- Question: "Is there
a
> problem with my telling them some or whatever of the Penningtons?
>
> Take care
>
> Pat
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shirley Erickson" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 9:34 PM
> Subject: Re: PRA-D Digest V03 #30
>
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I think the answer may lie in the peripheral families. I've recently
been
> > amazed in researching some of my personal "peripheral" families [Hey
they
> > are direct descendants also] that several unrelated [until some 300
years
> > later] families lived next door and went to the same church. Now if
that
> > doesn't create some confusion in one's research, I don't know what
does.
> Al
> > Matthews and I have visited many times about the peripheral families
to
> the
> > Pennington branches and the need to research them. For instance, my
group
> > 11 has heavy involvement with the Wilson and Johnson families back in
the
> > late 1700's to early 1800's [obviously many more surnames, as well].
> > Several other groups have these families also. Maybe that is the
better
> way
> > [or at least one other way] to link these families together.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> >
> > Shirley Erickson
> > Group 11 leader
> > Executive Director
> > Library Intermediary to the board.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dianne Fleenor" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 1:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: PRA-D Digest V03 #30
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you Rene'e for your positive comments. I was quite chastised
on
> the
> > Pennington List for my comments. Although, I also got some great
> supporting
> > comments. I even got a direct email from a gentleman in Texas that
gave
> me
> > three peoples names that were directly connected to my family line
with
> > Joshua. What a sweetheart he was for helping me. I emailed all three
of
> > them, but haven't heard back from any of them yet.
> > >
> > > It really is true about this Joshua and the two marriages with
Ephraim
> and
> > Richard as Joshua's father. It just seemed like everywhere I looked,
I
> got
> > the same information. I have found it on Ancestry.com marriages,
> > Genealogy.com marriages and also on the WorldConnect. I was extremely
> > frustrated and sure didn't mean to put everyone on the defensive. I
am
> > willing to do most of the research (and I always share my information)
if
> I
> > could just find someone to help me look in the right places. I got
the
> > information on Joshua from the PRA site Group 4 as well as Mike
> Pennington,
> > so I felt it was solid information. That was until I started
researching
> > the Internet and found so many discrepencies. I don't know where to
go to
> > look for "Wills" since I've checked Ancestry, Genealogy, Rootsweb and
> > others. I just can't seem to find anything on him. I'm not even sure
if
> he
> > is the Joshua that I found on the Kentucky Land Grants or the same
Joshua
> > that moved to Illinois, which is wh!
> > > ere his son (Jesse) and family (including descendants) lived. I've
> worked
> > on just Joshua alone for over 9 months and haven't been able to find
> > anything solid. So please forgive me for sharing my frustration in
such
> an
> > "untactful" manner. I will try to be more tactful next time.
> > >
> > > I just received this letter from another Pennington who has
experienced
> > the same thing I have. I have attached it below.
> > >
> > > Thanks again Rene'e for your help.
> > >
> > > Dianne
> > > Hi, Dianna Fleenor;
> > > I am Tom Pennington(John Thomas), of Muncie, Indiana.I am not sure
that
> I
> > descend from Joshua or Ephriam or just who I do descend from. But my
great
> > grandfather was "WILSON PENNINGTON" born Ky. 1809, don't know just
where
> or
> > to whom.But he lived most of his life in either Monroe co., Ky. or
Jackson
> > co., Tn. Wiith one small exception. He first appeared in the 1840
federal
> > census in Jackson co., Tn.but I have located him in Illinois in the
early
> > 1830's.
> > > I have worked on this for several decades, and am still no
closer
> to
> > a closing on it.
> > > The Penningtons in Wayne county, Illinois in 1830 f/c are
> Ephriam
> > age 40-to-50; Daniel Pennington age 20-to-30 and two other
Penningtons,
> > both liiving in the same household, one is named ,"Timothy" and one is
> > unnamed. One is 20-to-30 and the other is 60-to-70. But I have found
no
> way
> > to tell which is which. I have information from another source that
> Wilson
> > is on a church record in this same area with the same names of people
as
> > these around him. This younger man living in the same house with
Timothy
> is
> > the same age as my Wilson Pennington.But, is Tmothy the older or
younger
> > man?
> > > I am in total agreement with you on the idea of making sure
that
> > all information is accurate before it is made public.
> > > Some time back, someone took the liberty of putting my
GGfather
> > Wilson into a website and making him the son of Simeon Pennington, it
> > appeared in the Pennington website, I tried to get it changed, to no
> avail.
> > And I think it may still be out there. And sadly there is not one
shred of
> > evidence to support it.
> > > AS I re read your letter, it appears that you may be searching
for
> a
> > person muuch older than the ones mentioned here.
> > > Would enjoy hearing from you and hearing your ideas on how to
sort
> > this out. Anyways, thanks for any and all help. Tom Pennington
> > >
> > >
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